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To: muir_redwoods

"Evolution’s basic premise is that all “life” on the planet miraculously “emerged” through a bunch of accidents."

Since this is untrue and neither Darwin nor educators today have anything to say about origins of life based on Darwins teaching, everything else this person has to say is suspect. Natural selection is an established fact and can be readily observed in nature over as little as a few generations.




So that I understand this, your premise is that evolution is only about one very narrowly defined issue and absolutely nothing else--, "natural selection."

Or put another way, survival of the fittest, Hitler's "uber-man," law of the jungle, kill or be killed, etc.

I can accept that. I just want to make sure that I have evolution defined correctly for everyone. So that we're all on the same page.

Evolution is nothing but the law of the jungle...

Brutal rape, murder, sodomy, child molestation, theft, whatever--, you know "natural selection" or in other words, if I'm stronger than you or have better weapons and want what you have I can just take it. And through natural selection if you get in the way, simply execute you in cold blood...

Sounds a lot like National Socialism to me...

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289 posted on 08/16/2005 4:47:55 PM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: woodb01

Flawed applications of Darwin’s theory of natural selection do not disprove the theory of evolution.

1) A ‘law of the jungle’ society is worse than an ordered, co-operative one. So such a society doesn’t conform to the idea of natural selection anyway.

2) Some societies are more powerful than others typically due to accidents of history and geographical luck. So that isn’t ‘natural’ selection either.

3) Any cultural reasons for superior economies and whatnot do tend to spread (e.g. capitalism). But the spread is not following the method of beneficial mutations being passed on to offspring, which is what the theory of evolution prescribes.

4) Not that it is relevant, given the above points, but Hitler clearly screwed up if he thought he was improving Germany’s gene pool by persecuting the Jews, seeing as they included amongst them the finest minds in physics at the time. He wanted to conquer Europe and persecuted the theorists behind the A-bomb. Ooops.


302 posted on 08/16/2005 5:05:39 PM PDT by FostersExport
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To: woodb01

Okay you can stop trolling now


309 posted on 08/16/2005 5:18:52 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: woodb01
"Sounds a lot like National Socialism to me... "

Ahhh, no. What I said was that it is inaccurate to try to tag evolution with ANY statements about how things began. It speaks only to the development of species(On the Origin of Species) and the human species in particular(The Descent of Man). You read the rest into it. If you want to compare the behaviour of the animal and plant kingdoms with National Socialism you are advised that I will not be participating in that exercise.

321 posted on 08/16/2005 5:54:49 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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