Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Cindy Sheehan: Antiwar Catalyst
The Post Chronicle ^ | 08\16\05 | Patrick J Buchanan

Posted on 08/16/2005 5:05:05 AM PDT by RepublicNewbie

As a Gold Star mother of a soldier son slain in Iraq, Sheehan has authenticity and moral authority. Wedded to the passion of her protest, these make her a magnet for a bored White House press corps camped in Crawford for August. Cindy and the president are the only stories in town. And as a source of daily derogatory commentary on the president, Sheehan is using the media, and the media are using her, for the same end: to bedevil George W. Bush.

(Excerpt) Read more at postchronicle.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bitterpaleos; buchanan; cindysheehan; ezrapoundbrigade; lewserbrigade; lordhawhawbrigade; mothersheehan; patbuchanan; raimondobrigade; tokyorosebrigade; williamjoycebrigade
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last
Ya know.. Pat isn't real popular amongst conservatives but I like him. I also do not think he is antisemitic like some proclaim. I do not always agree with him but I always admire his gumption to say it.
1 posted on 08/16/2005 5:05:05 AM PDT by RepublicNewbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie
Some writer (Coulter? Malkin?) recently said, "I agree about 95% with Pat. Problem is, he mostly writes about the other 5% these days."

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

2 posted on 08/16/2005 5:10:48 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie
Ya know.. Pat isn't real popular amongst conservatives but I like him. I also do not think he is antisemitic like some proclaim. I do not always agree with him but I always admire his gumption to say it.

I like him too, but as Forrest Gump says, "stupid is as stupid does".

3 posted on 08/16/2005 5:11:12 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie

Pat sounds like he's heard she's divorced and he's trying to get up the courage to propose.


4 posted on 08/16/2005 5:11:23 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie

Pat needs a dumb ass vacine!


5 posted on 08/16/2005 5:11:27 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie
Pat is utter trash. He's become anti-Semitic in his later years just as Westbrook Pelger had earlier.

They call the Commies Reds and their sympathizers pinks or pinkos. What does one call Pat Buchanan with his anti-Semitism and appeasement of the Arabs? There is the brown color of the Nazis and the green color of the Islamics. Maybe because Pat incorperates ideologies of both he can be called hazel or hazelite?

That might be a name for the new appeasers of today's anti American mass murderers.

Pat Buchanan is a hazelite!

6 posted on 08/16/2005 5:11:31 AM PDT by Stepan12
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie

Please read Christopher Hitchens on this 'moral authority' that Cindy Sheehan posesses...

http://politics.slate.msn.com/id/2124500/


7 posted on 08/16/2005 5:15:08 AM PDT by Dudoight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie

From the article:

"The purity of Sheehan's protest has lately been diluted by her association with the far Left, the extravagance of her language and the arrival of political operatives to manipulate and manage her."

Hey Pat, it was diluted and contaminated in the first place.


8 posted on 08/16/2005 5:16:30 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie

I've been hearing the word catalyst bandied about and it is beginning to look as if it is yet another case of the liberals allowing the polls to lead them out onto a limb.

More often then not, they find themselves overextended on a story, with liberal pollsters feeding the frenzy with loaded poll results, and when the house of cards collapses, they tend to look foolish, opportunistic, and dishonest.


9 posted on 08/16/2005 5:18:35 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie

BTW, what are your thoughts on Cindy?


10 posted on 08/16/2005 5:18:45 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie

Here is Hitchens' article:


fighting words A wartime lexicon.

Cindy Sheehan's Sinister Piffle
What's wrong with her Crawford protest.
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, Aug. 15, 2005, at 11:50 AM PT

Here is an unambivalent statement: "The moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute."

And, now, here's another:

Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full well that my son, my family, this nation and this world were betrayed by George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agendas after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy … not for the real reason, because the Arab Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy.

Her knack for PR doesn't make her argument persuasive. Click image to expand.

Her knack for PR doesn't make her argument persuasive
The first statement comes from Maureen Dowd, in her New York Times column of Aug. 10. The second statement comes from Cindy Sheehan, whose son Casey was killed in Iraq last year. It was sent to the editors of ABC's Nightline on March 15. In her article, Dowd was arguing that Sheehan's moral authority was absolute.

I am at a complete loss to see how these two positions can be made compatible. Sheehan has obviously taken a short course in the Michael Moore/Ramsey Clark school of Iraq analysis and has not succeeded in making it one atom more elegant or persuasive. I dare say that her "moral authority" to do this is indeed absolute, if we agree for a moment on the weird idea that moral authority is required to adopt overtly political positions, but then so is my "moral" right to say that she is spouting sinister piffle. Suppose I had lost a child in this war. Would any of my critics say that this gave me any extra authority? I certainly would not ask or expect them to do so. Why, then, should anyone grant them such a privilege?

Sheehan has met the president before and has favored us with two accounts of the meeting, one fairly warm and the other distinctly cold. I have no means of knowing which mood reflected her real state of mind, but she now thinks she is owed another session with him, presumably in order to tell him what she asserted to the Nightline team. In pursuit of this, she has set up camp near Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, and announced that she will not leave until she gets some more face-time with our chief executive. This qualifies her to be described by Dowd as "a 48-year-old Californian with a knack for P.R." Well, I think I have to concede that if Dowd says you have a knack for PR, you have acquired one even if you didn't have one before. (I am not entirely certain, for example, that the above letter to ABC News would count as a delicate illustration of the said "knack.")

The president has compromised by sending his national-security adviser, Stephen Hadley, down that Crawford road to meet the PR-knackish Cindy. Not good enough, exclaims Dowd. Hadley was pro-war and has even been described as a neocon! Clearly, then, the Sheehan demand is liable to expand the more it is met. President Bush must either find a senior staff member who opposes the war and then send him or her down the track to see if that will do. Or else he must, like the Emperor Henry of old, stage his own Canossa and attend on her himself, abject apologies at the ready. After all, we mustn't forget that we are dealing—as was that emperor in his dispute with Pope Gregory—with "an absolute moral authority."

What dreary sentimental nonsense this all is, and how much space has been wasted on it. Most irritating is the snide idea that the president is "on vacation" and thus idly ignoring his suffering subjects, when the truth is that the members of the media—not known for their immunity to the charm of Martha's Vineyard or Cape Cod in the month of August—are themselves lazing away the season with a soft-centered nonstory that practically, as we like to say in the trade, "writes itself." Anyway, Sheehan now says that if need be she will "follow" the president "to Washington," so I don't think the holiday sneer has much life left in it.

There are, in fact, some principles involved here. Any citizen has the right to petition the president for redress of grievance, or for that matter to insult him to his face. But the potential number of such people is very large, and you don't have the right to cut in line by having so much free time that you can set up camp near his drive. Then there is the question of civilian control over the military, which is an authority that one could indeed say should be absolute. The military and its relatives have no extra claim on the chief executive's ear. Indeed, it might be said that they have less claim than the rest of us, since they have voluntarily sworn an oath to obey and carry out orders. Most presidents in time of war have made an exception in the case of the bereaved—Lincoln's letter to the mother of two dead Union soldiers (at the time, it was thought that she had lost five sons) is a famous instance—but the job there is one of comfort and reassurance, and this has already been discharged in the Sheehan case. If that stricken mother had been given an audience and had risen up to say that Lincoln had broken his past election pledges and sought a wider and more violent war with the Confederacy, his aides would have been quite right to show her the door and to tell her that she was out of order.

Finally, I think one must deny to anyone the right to ventriloquize the dead. Casey Sheehan joined up as a responsible adult volunteer. Are we so sure that he would have wanted to see his mother acquiring "a knack for P.R." and announcing that he was killed in a war for a Jewish cabal? This is just as objectionable, on logical as well as moral grounds, as the old pro-war argument that the dead "must not have died in vain." I distrust anyone who claims to speak for the fallen, and I distrust even more the hysterical noncombatants who exploit the grief of those who have to bury them.


11 posted on 08/16/2005 5:20:11 AM PDT by Dudoight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie

No comment?


12 posted on 08/16/2005 5:25:51 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dudoight
Finally, I think one must deny to anyone the right to ventriloquize the dead. Casey Sheehan joined up as a responsible adult volunteer. Are we so sure that he would have wanted to see his mother acquiring "a knack for P.R." and announcing that he was killed in a war for a Jewish cabal? This is just as objectionable, on logical as well as moral grounds, as the old pro-war argument that the dead "must not have died in vain." I distrust anyone who claims to speak for the fallen, and I distrust even more the hysterical noncombatants who exploit the grief of those who have to bury them.

The more she camps there and opens her ignorant, bigoted mouth the more her supports dwindles. The Bush administration is once more proving itself the master of political rope-a-dope (to use a Rush Limbaugh term).

13 posted on 08/16/2005 5:27:17 AM PDT by Stepan12
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

LOL

With that picture in my head it is off to work for me.


14 posted on 08/16/2005 5:29:32 AM PDT by Chgogal (Congressmen who willfully...during war...damage moral...should be arrested, exiled or..." Lincoln)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Chgogal

Glad I could make ya laugh this AM. It's like a tonic for the day ahead.


15 posted on 08/16/2005 5:34:30 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

Pat continues to disappoint me these days. Maybe he has been infected with the PMSNBC virus. Sometimes he sounds more like Soros/ Michalel Moore and less like Limbaugh or Coulter.


16 posted on 08/16/2005 7:13:32 AM PDT by Rosemont
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: atomicpossum; aculeus; general_re; hellinahandcart; Thinkin' Gal; rdb3; Petronski; ...
Pat sounds like he's heard she's divorced and he's trying to get up the courage to propose.

He's up against stiff competition.

17 posted on 08/16/2005 9:05:36 AM PDT by dighton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: dighton

CATFIGHT!


18 posted on 08/16/2005 9:07:31 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: RepublicNewbie

The "purity" of her protest? For shame that Pat Buchanan allies himself with American haters and anti-semites.


19 posted on 08/16/2005 9:09:09 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dighton; atomicpossum; aculeus; general_re; hellinahandcart; Thinkin' Gal; rdb3; Petronski

Thanks for the link. Now I'll read Buke.


20 posted on 08/16/2005 9:24:19 AM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson