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Shrinking Detroit has 12,000 abandoned homes
AFP ^ | Sun Aug 14, 5:03 PM ET

Posted on 08/15/2005 3:32:16 AM PDT by TimeLord

DETROIT, United States (AFP) - Rats or lead poisoning. When it comes to the threats from the broken down house next door, Dorothy Bates isn't sure which is worse.

"When it's lightening and thundering you can hear the bricks just falling," the 40-year-old nurse said as she looked at the smashed windows and garbage-strewn porch. "If you call and ask (the city) about it they say they don't have the funds to tear it down."

There are more than 12,000 abandoned homes in the Detroit area, a byproduct of decades of layoffs at the city's auto plants and white flight to the suburbs. And despite scores of attempts by government and civic leaders to set the city straight, the automobile capitol of the world seems trapped in a vicious cycle of urban decay.

Detroit has lost more than half its population since its heyday in the 1950's. The people who remain are mostly black -- 83 percent -- and mostly working class, with 30 percent of the population living below the poverty line according to the US Census Bureau.

The schools are bad. The roads are full of potholes. Crime is high and so are taxes. The city is in a budget crisis so deep it could end up being run by the state.

And it just got knocked off the list of the nation's ten largest cities.

"Detroit has become an icon of what's considered urban decline," said June Thomas, a professor of urban and regional planning at Michigan State University.

"The issue is not just getting people in the city. It's getting people in the city who can become property owners and stay property owners and pay taxes."

Perhaps the biggest challenge to luring the middle class from the area's swank suburbs is overcoming racial tensions, said Stephen Vogel, dean of the school of architecture at University of Detroit Mercy.

"Suburbanites are taking the bodies of their relatives out of cemeteries because they're afraid to come to the city," Vogel said. "There are about 400 to 500 hundred (being moved) a year which shows you the depth of racism and fear."

Most American cities have experienced a shift towards the suburbs.

What made Detroit's experience so stark was the lack of regional planning and the ease with which developments were able to incorporate into new cities in order to avoid sharing their tax revenue with the city, said Margaret Dewar, a professor of urban and regional planning at the University of Michigan.

The fleeing businesses and homeowners left behind about 36 square miles (58 square kilometers) of vacant land. That's roughly the size of San Francisco and about a quarter of Detroit's total land mass.

While a decision by General Motors to build its new headquarters smack in the middle of downtown has helped lure young professionals and spark redevelopment in some of the more desirable neighborhoods, there is little hope the vacant land will be filled any time soon.

In his state of the city address, embattled mayor Kwame Kilpatrick said even if 10,000 new homes were built every year for the next 15 years "we wouldn't fill up our city."

And Detroit is still losing about 10,000 people every year.

One solution Vogel has proposed is to turn swaths of the city into farmland. In the four years since his students initiated a pilot project dozens of community gardens and small farms have popped up.

But first the city has to get rid of the crumbling buildings that haunt the streets, luring criminals, arsonists and wild animals and creating a general sense of hopelessness.

"It's partly a resource issue and it's partly a bureaucracy issue," said Eric Dueweke, the community partnership manager at the University of Michigan's College of Architecture and Urban Planning.

"It takes them forever to find the proper owners of the properties and serve them with the proper paperwork," he said. "They're tearing them down at the rate of 1,500 or 2,000 a year, so they're really not cutting into the backlog in any significant way because that's how many are coming on stream."

Dorothy Bates has been waiting three years for the crumbling house next door to be torn down. There are nine more on her short block along with several vacant lots that are overgrown with weeds.

Bates does her best to keep her five children away from the rat nests, but the lead creeping out of crumbling bricks and peeling paint drifts in through her windows.

The most frustrating part of it, says her neighbor Larry, is that so many of the abandoned houses could be repaired. The foundations are solid. The buildings are beautiful. Or at least, they were once.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bluezone; detroit; liberalfailure; urbandecay
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To: Dan from Michigan

I new it was something like that.


201 posted on 08/15/2005 9:58:31 AM PDT by bella1 (red county, blue state)
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To: alicewonders
1. People have been leaving West Virginia since the early 1960s. The coal and glass industry in Huntington aint exactly thriving.

2. I believe Huntington is only 8% black.

202 posted on 08/15/2005 10:00:56 AM PDT by Clemenza (Intelligent Design Isn't Very Intelligent)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

I do wonder who will get the honor of losing to my NE Patriots in this years superbowl?


203 posted on 08/15/2005 10:02:08 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (NHL legend Conn Smythe: "If you can't beat 'em in the alley, you can't beat 'em on the ice.")
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To: Hot Tabasco
My company has a plant on Detroit's east side which is doing really poor right now. A few years ago for a period of several years we were dealing with a manpower agency which was supplying the plant with weekend workers. Their job was to recruit, test and interview people which we would ultimately hire. I can't tell you the number of complete losers which would file thru our main gate only to be rejected during the testing or drug testing.

And they wonder why so many employers prefer to hire Mexicans.

204 posted on 08/15/2005 10:03:00 AM PDT by Clemenza (Intelligent Design Isn't Very Intelligent)
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To: TimeLord

Detroit, a renaissance mixture of Democrats, unions, and victim-hood.


205 posted on 08/15/2005 10:12:23 AM PDT by polymuser
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To: Dan from Michigan
What I don't get is that people in Grand Rapids consider anything east of Lansing, Detroit. I'm 60 miles from downtown.

I personally give it a bit more leeway and don't start the delineation until east of A2 & Ypsi ;-)

206 posted on 08/15/2005 10:12:49 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: polymuser

The super bowl this year is in Detoilet. It should be fun to watch.


207 posted on 08/15/2005 10:18:47 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (NHL legend Conn Smythe: "If you can't beat 'em in the alley, you can't beat 'em on the ice.")
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll forward those on to him.


208 posted on 08/15/2005 10:21:27 AM PDT by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: TimeLord
"Suburbanites are taking the bodies of their relatives out of cemeteries because they're afraid to come to the city," Vogel said. "There are about 400 to 500 hundred (being moved) a year which shows you the depth of racism and fear."

I'm considering that, too, but for entirely different reasons. Since my loved ones are buried on a piece of prime real estate and the Supreme Court Decision on eminent domain, I don't know how long they will remain inviolate.

There's no safety anywhere, really, but I'm going to talk to my sister about moving them to a smaller rural cemetery in a small town that doesn't have much prospects for urban growth or sprawl.

But then again, who knows the changes looming in the next 50 to 100 years? Des Moines is a lot like this, too. Block and blocks of boarded up houses, nice large ones that could have been rennovated. Nobody in their right mind wants to be a landlord, I should say slumlord, any more because who needs all the deadbeats, drugs, graffiti, and property damage done by people who only care to destroy and not build?

This isn't really anything new, but the scope is broader. There are hundreds of abandoned or seriously declining small towns across America, particularly in the west.

209 posted on 08/15/2005 10:22:50 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: TimeLord

This would go for $750,000 in San Diego.

210 posted on 08/15/2005 10:30:26 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: All
Time for ED-209!


211 posted on 08/15/2005 10:32:34 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

Sad shame that was a nice house in its day.


212 posted on 08/15/2005 10:33:09 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (NHL legend Conn Smythe: "If you can't beat 'em in the alley, you can't beat 'em on the ice.")
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To: cyclotic

I encourage everyone to see this satellite view of Detroit and one of the Grosse Pointes. It shows 75% demolished homes to the west, full suburbia to the east.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=grosse+pointe+farms,+mi&ll=42.377521,-82.943065&spn=0.008026,0.021954&t=h&hl=en


213 posted on 08/15/2005 10:34:16 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: finnman69

Not enough firepower to handle what Detroit has become.


214 posted on 08/15/2005 10:35:03 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (NHL legend Conn Smythe: "If you can't beat 'em in the alley, you can't beat 'em on the ice.")
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To: bella1
No there isn't. You obviously have never been there!

I think he is talking about the Suburbs which technically aren't Detroit.

215 posted on 08/15/2005 10:37:31 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: bella1
No there isn't. You obviously have never been there!

I think he is talking about the Suburbs which technically aren't Detroit.

216 posted on 08/15/2005 10:37:32 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Jacquerie
Are there any livable majority minority cities?

Washington, DC and Chicago come to mind.

217 posted on 08/15/2005 10:37:47 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Modernman

Chicago and New York both have white pluralities and huge sections of both cities are very wealthy and very safe. Detroit is essentially one big ghetto.


218 posted on 08/15/2005 10:40:06 AM PDT by Clemenza (Love Thyself)
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To: ladyL
There are MANY MANY educated hard working BLACKS that will tell you the freeloading segment of their race know how to work the system and the White man is intimidated and studpid to let it happen. Let's all grow up and forget this PC position of not talking facts and truth. I am tired of it. I see our country being ruined by 3rd World immigrants WHO WILL BE TAKING OVER MY GRANDCHILDREN'S country that all the men in my family fought wars for. THESE hyphenated amkericans are ALL LOSERS. They add nothing to our country and we need to speak out.

Before you rant - use the spell checker.

219 posted on 08/15/2005 10:40:18 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: codercpc
Who the heck wants to visit DETROIT?

I know what you mean and I live just north now. The only time I go into Detroit now is when I have to drive thru it to get where I'm going on the other side of if.

My sister who has season tickets to the Red Wings has stopped offering me them because she knows I refuse to go down there. Same goes for Tiger ball games, I get offered tickets to their games all the time but I refuse them.........

220 posted on 08/15/2005 10:40:49 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (What is a homosexual Islamic Jihadist going to do with 72 virgins? Can he give them away?)
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