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Recording industry: CD-burning a bigger problem than file-sharing
News10.net ^ | 13 August 2005

Posted on 08/15/2005 1:54:20 AM PDT by Caipirabob

Edited on 08/15/2005 2:35:29 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

News 10 is a Gannett website which allows only title and link to the story.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cd; downloading; music; riaa
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To: DameAutour
I'm willing to pay money in order to be able to compile my own collections.

Many of us are.

For that attitude, they deserve whatever they get.

I can't argue with that.

61 posted on 08/15/2005 11:07:56 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: LS

The article didn't make such a distinction. It is simply talking about CD burning.


62 posted on 08/15/2005 1:47:08 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB

Yah. I think, as does IP history, that personal use is ok. Does that involve you buring it and giving it to someone else? Well, that's like copying a book and giving it away. No question that at some point it harms the author/artist.


63 posted on 08/15/2005 2:27:40 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS

You may be a musician, but I just don't agree - and keep in mind that I didn't condone music piracy.

My arguement is not ill-founded. Computer software piracy is a HUGE problem - some might say as big of a financial hit as music piracy. Just crank up any file-sharing software (LimeWire, Kazza, etc.) and type in any big-name software title - you will find LOTS of hits. There will be just as many hits for Kracks and serial numbers. Getting Pirated software is 99% as easy as pirating music. But it doesn't make that pirating any more legal or moral.

But limiting LEGITIMATE users (as in buyers) ability to FAIR use is just going to further undercut sales, not increase them. Again, why the popularity of the LEGAL music download businesses (iTunes Music Store for example)? Because people can pick and choose the music they want, without paying for an entire CD of otherwise undesirable music.

Just because your circle of friends are relatively honest, doesn't mean the comparisons I used are not legitimate.

And the comparison to Guns is quite accurate. I wasn't insinuating that guns were bought and shared (although it does happen - it's called a "straw purchase" and is illegal), but the fact that the regulations to keep guns out of the hands of those who would get them illegally don't actually work. The market for stolen guns is a monster.

I too am a musician, but not one dependent upon his playing/singing ability to bring in money. But I do have friends who are in that side of the business - and they don't see the problem the same way you do.

What I do believe - piracy should push the industry to improve it's ways of doing business. FAIR use, less crap, more quality, will all be the outcome if the industry chooses the constructive way to fix things.

Also note how many musicians have found alternative ways to distribute their music.

And FYI - I do not pirate. I find it plain wrong - music or software (or movies, etc.). But I know or have known people who were big into it - and at one time, I too had some limited participation in downloading stuff. So I KNOW what's out there.


64 posted on 08/15/2005 2:31:35 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan)
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To: newzjunkey

The solution I've seen is recording allowed 3 times from the software built into the CD. Only solution I know right now would be to play it on my home audio system with a digital output to another burner. The hassle just isn't worth it. I won't bother buying a CD if it has this technology on it


65 posted on 08/15/2005 2:39:18 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: prisoner6

Only if you play Stairway.


66 posted on 08/15/2005 2:41:38 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: TheBattman
Why is Dodge/Chrysler not still selling the "K-Car"? Becaue it was junk that no-one today with any brains would buy.

Bad example. The K-car was part of Chrysler's salvation from bankruptcy. They sold a jillion of 'em. Yes, they look funny by today's standards. But at the time, they were selling like hotcakes because they were good, basic, no-frills cars for a good price.

67 posted on 08/15/2005 2:46:32 PM PDT by TChris ("You tweachewous miscweant!" - Elmer Fudd)
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To: cambridge

IIRC, they were the most profitable rock band in history. I think they made the Forbes 400 sortly before Jerry died.


68 posted on 08/15/2005 2:50:10 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Wolfie

I buy most of the CD's I want at the flea market in used condition for about $2.00. Deal !


69 posted on 08/15/2005 2:58:30 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: TheBattman
I certainly agree in private use, however that is defined---and it might be more than just you in your car or walkman. But there is a big problem---and not just a "marketing problem," as Gilder argues---when vast numbers of people pirate music on a consistent basis.

I agree that one cause is the record companies allowing albums to be sold with just one good song and 10 tracks of junk on there; and perhaps there will be a technological way in the future to allow listeners to choose which 10 of 20 new tracks they want on an album to purchase, much like customizing a car.

70 posted on 08/15/2005 3:22:18 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Racehorse

Because that's how much the producers are hiding from the artists and blaming their theft on the public.


71 posted on 08/15/2005 3:26:09 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: TChris

No - actually it's a great example - They sold them at the time because that's what the demand was for. They no longer sell the same cars because it's not what customers want.

What sort of sympathy would Chrysler get if they were still selling the same cars today? Even with some minor "improvements" - they wouldn't sell.


72 posted on 08/15/2005 4:43:16 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan)
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To: TheBattman
No - actually it's a great example - They sold them at the time because that's what the demand was for.

But that isn't what you said. You said it isn't still selling "Becaue[sic] it was junk...". My response was to disagree; it was not junk. It was a good car in its time.

73 posted on 08/16/2005 7:53:10 AM PDT by TChris ("You tweachewous miscweant!" - Elmer Fudd)
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To: ProudGOP

I didn't see it personally, but in the new Metallica movie Some Kind Of Monster he apologizes and admits his failure, and how because of him Metallica went from being most loved to most hated.


74 posted on 08/17/2005 12:55:21 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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