Posted on 08/14/2005 1:25:44 PM PDT by adam_az
Edited on 08/14/2005 1:28:27 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Live thread for posting breaking news about the Gaza Explulsion which is set to begin within the hour...
"It's pretty obvious. You've got activists who have been soundly trounced through the political process trespassing in a closed military area to try to block implementation of a policy formed and ratified through said process."
Try again.
Sharon campaigned AGAINST Mitzna's plan to do exactly this.
Then Sharon adopted the idea.
Likud held a vote of members - they voted against the disengagement. Sharon ignored it. He kicked out the members of his own cabinet who opposed it and were with the majority of Likud.
You and me both, BG---
I am very, very far enough from an "expert" to feel qualified to even post opinions on this subject..
BUT, I am a true Israel supporter and pray for nothing less that peace and a HOME that is theirs without question!
you haven't been reading La Raza or the Aztlan professors lately.
All of the "Stolen Lands" should be returned to their true owners...Texas to california
"They're not the same thing. We're not holding any lands under occupation."
Tell that to our very own aztlatan reconquista intifadists.
Like I said, no claimed that one had any more than a few hundred people.
http://english.thekotel.org/cameras.asp LISTEN AND WATCH THE WALL CAM.. WOW... THE AUDIO IS AWESOME .... SO POWERFUL
The singing is haunting, isn't it. Wish I understood Hebrew.
I'm listening right now - powerful indeed.
Israel has annexed all of Jerusalem but that has not stopped Bush, et al from demanding they give it away.
Gives me chills and tears !!!!!!!
Suicide as in Masada? I know scholars today, well some scholars, debunk the mass suicide Masada theory, but surely it remains in the Israeli consciousness.
Hang on. I'll ping you to a thread.
Israeli's are the among bravest people on earth.
How long before LA Style rioting start happening
(IsraelNN.com) Professor Ely Merzbach, who teaches Mathematics at Bar Ilan University, set up one of the first protest tents outside the Kisufim Crossing leading into Gaza Sunday afternoon.
The professor pitched his tent after police did not allow him into Gush Katif to visit his grandchildren and family members living in Shirat HaYam.
Professor Merzbach told Arutz-7 that he intends on staying at Kisufim until he is allowed to enter Gush Katif and invites others refused entry to join him there.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=87707
Of course, some rabble rousers among the Mexican community on both sides of the border maintain the US is holding land it has no right to, that the treaty signed way back when was illegal, etc.. and they demand Aztlan. The right to return. (We're being invaded by migration.) But I digress. Sorry.
While not taking sides, I have no problem with someone calling it an "Expulsion".
First thread title: "Gaza Disengagement/Explulsion Live Thread"
Second (modified) title: "Gaza Disengagement/Explusion Live Thread"
Third version?...
By Corinne Heller Thu Aug 11, 6:19 AM ET
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Non-Jews now outnumber Jews in Israel and the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip, but the planned Israeli pullout from Gaza will ensure a Jewish majority in the other two areas for two decades, a study showed on Thursday.
The study, published in Israel's left-wing Haaretz newspaper, said that for the first time fewer than half of the people living in Israel itself together with the occupied West Bank and Gaza are Jewish.
Figures from Israel and the Palestinian Authority show about 5.26 million Jews and 5.8 million non-Jews, mainly Palestinians, live in Israel and the occupied territories, it said.
However, this month's Gaza evacuation will change the demographic balance in Israel and the West Bank, one of the reasons Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has given for his plan to withdraw from all 21 Gaza settlements and four in the West Bank. The evacuations, due to start on Wednesday, will mark the first withdrawal from land Palestinians want for a state. About 8,500 Jewish settlers live among 1.4 million Gaza Palestinians.
"If you disregard the Gaza population, the percentage of Jews (in Israel and the West Bank) grows to more than 60 percent," said Hebrew University Professor Sergio Della Pergola, whose research contributed to the study.
"The disengagement from Gaza adds 20 years to the process and delays the situation we are in now," he told Israel Radio.
Some Israelis fear that fast-growing Palestinian and Israeli Arab communities will compromise Israel's Jewish identity and democratic aspirations if it holds onto occupied territories.
Lumping together the populations of Israel and the West Bank in such calculations is liable to strengthen Palestinian fears that Israel will tighten its grip on the West Bank after the Gaza pullout, rather than prepare to end its occupation.
Sharon's plan also calls for strengthening large enclaves in the West Bank, home to about 2.4 million Palestinians and 240,000 settlers, and which Palestinians want for the bulk of their state, along with Gaza and Arab East Jerusalem.
Washington hopes the withdrawal will help restart Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. Settlers and right-wingers say it rewards a Palestinian uprising and betrays Israel's claims on biblical lands.
The study said non-Jews in Israeli-controlled areas include 4 million Palestinians, 1.35 million Israeli Arabs, 185,000 foreign workers and 290,000 non-Jewish immigrants.
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