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To: Libloather

The POWs is one consideration I had not thought of when considering if the nukes should have been used. I've always focused on the forces it would have taken to conquer the mainland. That alone was staggering to me. Now it's obvious to me that we save many POW lives by droping the nukes. Most Excellent.


3 posted on 08/13/2005 4:41:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne
The POWs is one consideration I had not thought of when considering if the nukes should have been used. I've always focused on the forces it would have taken to conquer the mainland. That alone was staggering to me. Now it's obvious to me that we save many POW lives by droping the nukes.

I confess to the same mistaken assumption. This is a great story that increases our understanding.

6 posted on 08/13/2005 4:45:30 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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I can't imagine the hell the Americans would have faced as they stormed ashore...1 million dead...is a staggering number.

Harry made the right decision..

7 posted on 08/13/2005 4:45:42 PM PDT by Dog
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To: DoughtyOne

I know of a Navy man, now deceased, who was slated for part of the invasion. It saved his life too. I know all his grandchildren and children, and his widow. He married after the war, as I recall. The children were all born after the war.

Some think we could have ended the war without the bomb. But no one can say for sure. The bomb certainly showed the Japanese where the power was. It was the right decision.


19 posted on 08/13/2005 5:41:14 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: DoughtyOne; All
General MacArthur told Secretary of War Stinson that the invasion would cost over a million casualties to American forces alone, and the War department report concluded that the Japanese would suffer between 5 and 10 million dead, and the United States between 1.7 and 4 million casualties.

Secret intercepts indicated that Japanese defenses were far in excess of original estimates.

D Day in Europe was conducted with 175,000 troops.
Seven million American troops were in the Pacific now...

From Flyboys. pages 291-295

And this little gem:

-snip the POWs will be concentrated and confined.... until final disposition may be made...-snip Whether they are destroyed individually or in groups, and whether it is accomplished by means of mass bombing, poisonous smoke, poisons, drowning, or decapitation, dispose of them as the situation dictates. -

It is the aim not to allow the escape of a single one, to annihilate them all, and not to leave any traces.
- Minister of War, Shitayama.


31,617 American POWs were liberated.

Out of about 132,134 western POWs held, for a death rate of 27% for Americans alone.

Compared to the POW attrition rate of 1/2 of one % to 1.5 % for American POWs held by Germany.

Many confirmed instances of American POWs being bayoneted to death

or beheaded and eaten.

Should you feel the need I can post pictures of the murders of POWs and some extracts of war crimes tribunals. - Hell, they bragged about it.

22 posted on 08/13/2005 5:58:44 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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