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To: Havoc

Bunk?? LOL Bunk you said.

Here is ID as best said from the ID network, a leading proponent of ID:

The theory of intelligent design (ID) holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection. ID is thus a scientific disagreement with the core claim of evolutionary theory that the apparent design of living systems is an illusion.

Notice the word CERTAIN, and that ID theory itself does not wholly discard evolution rather it seeks to replace the core claims of it.

Where does it say GOD, Jesus, or any deity other than a nameless intelligence?

And I will believe my God, and My Catholicosm the way its handed to me, you can no more tell me how to live and breather my religion than I yours.

And saying, jokingly " had to give evolution a chance" does nt make me an evolutionist. An evolution by your definition excludes GOD, I have never oince excluded GOD, yet you seem to think that unless I follow exactly what the bible says is creation I am excluding GOD, bunk pure bunk. You call any Christian be him the Pope or anybody that believes evolution fits inside Creationism as somehow heretics.

Let me ask you something when did you become GOD?


655 posted on 08/19/2005 11:52:02 PM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: aft_lizard
And I will believe my God, and My Catholicosm the way its handed to me

I suppose that word in bold is Catholicism and is Roman rite? That pretty much explains the whole mess with you. Glad I'm Christian instead. Wish you were too.

An evolution by your definition excludes GOD

It excludes him in things he claims direct involvement in, calls him a liar as a result both directly and indirectly which is blasphemy, etc. Something we Christians take rather better care about. Evolution says that the world started with fire, God says it started with Water. Evolution says no Global flood, God says he destroyed the earth with one in judgement of mankind. On and on we can go. Evolution contradicts God and the Bible at every turn and outright. So, yeah, we Christians have a bit of a problem with it where you Catholics might not. Your religion is one of Philosophy that borrows from Christianity. Christianity, however, doesn't follow philosophy, but instead follows Christ - thus the dead giveaway in the term "Christian".

Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other..

The verse finishes by saying axiomatically that one cannot serve God and money as masters. If one cannot serve two masters, which is the point of the statement, and two masters are God and Money, one cannot serve God and Money. Simple logic. One can also not serve God and philosophy. See how that works? You exemplify the axiomatic truth of that scripture - dispising the scripture and holding to the philosophy of evolution. Congrats. You've just proven God right.

657 posted on 08/20/2005 1:00:44 AM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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