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To: Havoc

Well as you well know being the scholar you are that god created plant and land animal and all that creeps on the sixth day. And to your previous post, God still made the Sun prior to anything living on this land, which takes away your argument that plants were made before the sun and somehow, which I dont know where you got it, you assumed that I said as much.

And honestly I do not know why in the hell you are arguing with me, a ID proponent when I sarcastically said what I said. But hey I can argue all day long if you wish.

If you are arguing creation orthodoxy, then you must argue with churchs who have said as much as I have, that evolution does not contradict the bible. This includes Pope John Paul 2.

I am only propogating what has been accepted by many church's, whether you choose to accept the fact that evolution fits inside creationism or not is up to you.


632 posted on 08/19/2005 10:00:44 PM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: aft_lizard
If you are arguing creation orthodoxy, then you must argue with churchs who have said as much as I have

No, I must argue with individuals like you because Churches are just collections of individuals. Even if some individuals decide to believe other than God on any given issue. It may be their right to believe what they want. That doesn't make it true and it doesn't change what the Judaic and Christian Scriptures say. And I don't care what the Pope thinks or says. He is a man, not God. Peter was an Apostle of Christ and had to be rebuked and corrected by Paul. I don't grant that the Pope is anything similar, special or better than you or I in God's eyes. He will answer to God just as you and I will and with no special treatment. He is responsible to God for his words and without excuse.. just as both of us are. You knew enough about your subject to argue without even bothering to check what I was saying. You went directly to evolutionist tactics rather than defending God's word. And you would tell me that you are an ID proponent but apparently not a Christian? The first tenet of Christianity is that you believe God. The first tenet of Judaism is that you believe God. Christians don't get to pick and choose what, from God, they will believe any more than Adam and Eve had that right. Since when are you special?

Well as you well know being the scholar you are that god created plant and land animal and all that creeps on the sixth day.

Ummm. No. Genesis 1:9-13 states that was done on DAY Three. On day six, God gave the plants, herbs, trees, etc to man. grass, herb bearing sead, trees, etc all came on day three, before the sun was created. Have you actually ever read Genesis? Or are you just taking it on someone elses nonsense that these things are so?

642 posted on 08/19/2005 10:31:33 PM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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