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To: Havoc

Listen I have been battling this fight for 3 F****G days, I have the right to quit on this stupid argument. Call it beg out or whatever late comer.

And read Genisis before you come out sounding foolish on this.

And God said let there be light and there was light and God saw the light and it was good, and God divided the light from Darkness And God called the light DAY and the Darkness NIGHT, so yes.

All of those before he created plants and bugs, so there you go genius. Jesus H are all of you darwinist so ignorant?

LOL indeed.


607 posted on 08/19/2005 6:18:52 PM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: aft_lizard

Yes, God did create light initially. That you are correct about. It, however, doesn't say that he created the sun until later. And the sun is the operational divider of day and night for us in the practical sense. The sun is also that from which the plants draw light and thusly life. Whether God invented light before making the sun is irrelevant to the argument at hand. The problem you have to overcome is the absence of sunlight and insects both. You made a tragic leap at one and missed, the other still awaits. No sunlight = plants die. No bugs = plants cant procreate and the life ends. Anyway you cut it, the system is irreducibly complex and fails without the working parts.
Once God created time, he had to respond to time in a limited sense to intervene before what he'd thusfar accomplished fell to ruin. Working with time, God created plants, then within a few days created sunlight to nourish them and bugs to help them reproduce. Any longer than that would require an unstated further miracle or God reworking to make up for a mistake in "timing". The order of the items created tells us that God knew what he was doing in setting up the dependancies initially. The dependancies setup preclude any notion of days meaning millions of years.
Logic won't allow it.

Now, you can say "God can do what he wants" and offer that strawman argument. God, indeed can do what he wants. But, God doesn't lie and has already told us what he did. From a
scientific standpoint, Occum must be invoked to shave off the nonsense. The only reason this "millions of years" gap theory crap comes up is because science tried disproving
God by extension and as a result, wimps of so-called Christians who couldn't stand on the word of their God decided to compromise God's word just as Eve and Adam did.
They still haven't learned from the example of Eden even to the extent of believing God on how it was created.

Plants living on sunlight can't wait millions of years for sunlight, spanky. Nor can they wait millions of years for bugs to pollinate them.


611 posted on 08/19/2005 7:26:51 PM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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