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To: CarolinaGuitarman
The biblical texts have no eyewitness accounts for the creation. The texts that we have now are copies of copies of translations from sources we don't have anymore.

They relate events witnessed by the first humans. You are correct that they are tenuous from the standpoint of scientific study, but there is still more credible substance to them than there is to the completely unsubstantiated notion of a 4.5 billion year old earth.

The stories in them go in direct opposition from the physical evidence we have right now before us . . .

Hardly. The texts speak of an orderly, intelligently designed universe. All indications are that the universe remains on a more or less steady course. Especially the part of the universe inhabited by humans. You want to put science up against the laws of nature, design, and all the consistencies observed and recorded throughout history? Be my guest. You haven't even begun to explain how order can arise out of chaos apart from an intelligent agent.

339 posted on 08/15/2005 1:55:24 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
... the completely unsubstantiated notion of a 4.5 billion year old earth.

You are priceless.

340 posted on 08/15/2005 1:57:01 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
They relate events witnessed by the first human

Adam wasn't created until the sixth day. He therefore obviously missed 5/6 of creation.

If I based my entire Weltanschaung on one book, I'd try to be at least a little familar with its contents.

343 posted on 08/15/2005 2:08:06 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"You are correct that they are tenuous from the standpoint of scientific study, but there is still more credible substance to them than there is to the completely unsubstantiated notion of a 4.5 billion year old earth."

Lies. The only question is are you just not too bright or are you just not very honest?

"The texts speak of an orderly, intelligently designed universe. All indications are that the universe remains on a more or less steady course"

No, they speak of a world that is meddled with by God constantly, one whose *order* can be broken at any time by the whims of said deity.

"You want to put science up against the laws of nature, design, and all the consistencies observed and recorded throughout history?"

So now you show your hand... it's science you hold as the enemy. Finally a glimmer of truth.

"You haven't even begun to explain how order can arise out of chaos apart from an intelligent agent"

You haven't begun to explain why an intelligent agent is necessary to bring about order. The laws of nature can just *be*; scientists are humble enough to know that any further claims cannot be pursued with science. Not arrogant YEC's like you though.
347 posted on 08/15/2005 2:23:36 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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