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Sources: CIA finds Iranian president likely not hostage-taker
CNN ^ | Friday, August 12, 2005

Posted on 08/13/2005 10:43:29 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

Analysis not final, officials say

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A CIA report has determined with "relative certainty" that Iran's new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, was not involved in the taking of U.S. hostages 26 years ago, three government officials told CNN on Friday.

The officials insisted on anonymity, saying they did not want to speak for the CIA about its report.

Another U.S. official said the tone of the report is that there is no evidence to date that the new Iranian president was among those who held U.S. diplomats hostage.

The officials cautioned that the analysis is not final.

Two former hostages told CNN they remain certain Ahmadinejad was involved in plotting the takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979, in which 52 hostages were held for 444 days.

The two also said they saw the man they identify as Ahmadinejad many times while they were held, and that he appeared to be in a supervisory role.

A senior State Department official said the government is defining "hostage-taker" as someone who was "involved in the planning, execution and conduct" of taking people captive.

The dispute over what role Ahmadinejad may or may not have played has immediate significance, as the Bush administration considers whether to grant him a visa to attend a coming U.N. meeting in New York.

President Bush said Thursday that while the investigation continues, "We have an agreement with the United Nations to allow people to come to meet, and I suspect he will be here to meet at the United Nations."

After Ahmadinejad appeared on television and in newspapers celebrating his victory in last month's election, several former hostages held at the U.S. Embassy between 1979 and 1981 said he was one of their captors.

Ahmadinejad and other Iranian officials denied the allegation.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1979; 444; americans; carter; cia; crisis; embassy; hardliner; hostage; iran; jimmycarter; khomeini; mahmoudahmadinejad; mullahloversonfr; official; state; tehran; un; usa

1 posted on 08/13/2005 10:43:30 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot

Gee, I feel much better.


2 posted on 08/13/2005 10:46:19 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: F14 Pilot

Gee. I wonder which side in the CIA wrote this report. The CIA guys on America's side or the ones on the other side. (Goss probably hasn't completed the fumigation yet).


3 posted on 08/13/2005 10:51:02 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

"Goss probably hasn't completed the fumigation yet".

He's working on it.


4 posted on 08/13/2005 10:55:31 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: F14 Pilot

The "CIA(CYA)" and Mr McGoo What is the differnce?!


5 posted on 08/13/2005 10:57:09 AM PDT by zzen01
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To: popdonnelly

"officials insisted on anonymity, saying they did not want to speak for the CIA about its report" Makes ya go HUMMMM...!


6 posted on 08/13/2005 10:57:58 AM PDT by zzen01
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To: F14 Pilot

It wouldn't be in the nature of the C.I.A. to take the word of Americans were there under the thumb of the Iranian radicals during their imprisonment. They would prefer the word of one of their bureaucrats who operates a desk in D.C.


7 posted on 08/13/2005 10:59:45 AM PDT by hgro (ews)
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To: F14 Pilot

Hostage taker or not, the guy was still a professional assassin for Iran


8 posted on 08/13/2005 11:05:56 AM PDT by Crazieman (6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
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To: Crazieman

Hitler never personally killed a Jew either. Charles Manson didn't hurt anyone with his own hands. Osama Bin Laden didn't fly the planes into the WTC.

I guess those people and the president of iran are all nice law-abiding people since they didn't do anything. /sarcasm


9 posted on 08/13/2005 11:10:15 AM PDT by HKaddict
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To: F14 Pilot

Does anyone believe anything the CIA says?


10 posted on 08/13/2005 11:12:58 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: F14 Pilot
A CIA report has determined with "relative certainty"

The CIA should publish a glossary with their public information releases. For example, in order to fairly evaluate this report it would be helpful to compare their level of "relative certainty" with other baseline determinations. For example, had the CIA determined with "relative certainty" that Saddam Hussein had active WMD development programs and stockpiles, or with a "higher degree of relative certainty", or a "lesser degree of relative certainty". How about the "Saddam's agents were seeking to purchase yellowcake uranium" story. Or, it would be helpful to know whether the CIA had determined with "relative certainty" that Bill Clinton was receiving illegal campaign donations from the Peoples' Liberation Army, etc. etc.

11 posted on 08/13/2005 11:29:21 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: F14 Pilot

How convenient.


12 posted on 08/13/2005 11:42:54 AM PDT by itsahoot (Reagan promised to abolish the Dept of Education and the 55 mph Limit. Which was least important?)
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To: nuconvert

Yup! And that's a big thumbs up to him.


13 posted on 08/13/2005 12:01:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: All

Another slam dunk?


14 posted on 08/13/2005 12:04:08 PM PDT by GoDuke
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Gee. I wonder which side in the CIA wrote this report. The CIA guys on America's side or the ones on the other side. (Goss probably hasn't completed the fumigation yet).

Sounds like someone is manipulating intelligence analysis to avoid a nasty diplomatic dispute. If we knew he was a hostage taker, we couldn't really grant him a Visa, could we? So we deem him not to have been one of the hostage takers. Problem solved.

15 posted on 08/13/2005 12:05:17 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: F14 Pilot
A senior State Department official said the government is defining "hostage-taker" as someone who was "involved in the planning, execution and conduct" of taking people captive.

You could drive a truck through the loophole in this definition. Notice it says nothing specifically about "Interrogation"? I think I'll take the word of the former hostages over the CIA -- at least until somebody at CIA is willing to put their name on this conclusion.

16 posted on 08/13/2005 12:12:43 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

This whole crap by CIA means that we can't stop a terrorist.

Welcome to the USA, you moron Ahmadi!


17 posted on 08/13/2005 12:14:50 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: popdonnelly
I'd feel a whole lot better if he was dead, and we did it. I'll take the word of a former marine held hostage illegally for over a year over the CIA and a bunch of lying Iranians. Now this POS is planning to visit the UN. It would be poetic justice to capture, try and hang him here. Why are we the only country that plays by the rules?
18 posted on 08/15/2005 10:04:05 AM PDT by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If their CNN's gov sources, then they are a "guided leak", they same ones that leak to guide US policy in certain directions, and to hurt any current US policy.

Who knows? I believe nothing from sources in the Gov anymore.
19 posted on 08/15/2005 10:10:18 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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