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9/11 Panel Explains Move on Intelligence Unit
New York Times ^ | 08/13/05 | DOUGLAS JEHL

Posted on 08/12/2005 9:29:21 PM PDT by conservative in nyc

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To: Travis McGee

I've heard that. But if Atta was one of the masterminds of a great plot to take down America, does it make sense that, knowing our borders weren't guarded but we COULD track electronic stuff, that he would lend out his cell phone and credit cards?

The story sounds like Atta wasn't REALLY here, but we THOUGHT he was here, and if we didn't have a wall we may have started tracking him carefully. Well, isn't that exactly what Atta would NOT have wanted?

Wouldn't it make more sense for ATTA to be using OTHER PEOPLE'S identification so as to keep hidden?

No, this explanation just doesn't make sense.

Anyway, the beauty of data mining is that it doesn't matter that things get shared. There is so many little pieces of data that sharing just starts linking people together.

But Data mining doesn't require thousands of career "analysts" sitting in their offices trying to find ways of undermining republican administrations. That alone makes it a target for dismissal.


21 posted on 08/12/2005 11:53:21 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: conservative in nyc; All
Able Danger, 9-11 Report, Gorelick, and so much more...

Click the picture...

22 posted on 08/13/2005 12:39:55 AM PDT by backhoe (Has that Clinton "Legacy" made *you* feel safer, yet?)
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To: conservative in nyc
"information would have been unlikely to be shared in the environment that prevailed before Sept. 11."

It would thus seem important to investigate the conditions (read: Clinton Administration) that led to that environment. Why didn't the 911 commission do that, I wonder?

23 posted on 08/13/2005 5:16:10 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage
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To: conservative in nyc

No mention of 9-11 staffer Alvin Felzenberg changing his story this week.

No mention of the 9-11 Commission staffers scurrying to the National Archives this week, to "check their notes", and how those archives notes are what Hamilton and Keane base their joint statement on.


And no sarcastic giggles about those National Archives compromised, sanitized, Bergerized notes.


24 posted on 08/13/2005 6:19:25 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@)
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To: oc311

Senior Military Officers = Wes Clarke and who else?


25 posted on 08/13/2005 6:23:40 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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To: Jeff Chandler
There will be plenty of these stories on the inner pages of the MSM newspapers today. Saturday is "bury the story" day.

They need the more prominent spaces for grieving mothers.

26 posted on 08/13/2005 7:18:53 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: oc311

Here's a related story concerning my favorite source of disinformation, the New York Times. Regarding the matter of Mohammed Atta meeting with an Iraqi agent in Prague, the Times did this: it printed a story, quoting an anonymous "Administration official", that Vaclev Havel, the President of the Czech Republic, had privately called the White House and informed the President that Czech intelligence had been wrong, and that the meeting had not taken place. Unfortunately for the Times, this call never happened. Unfortunately for the Times, Vaclev Havel sees their newspaper. Havel promptly issued an official statement, through his spokesman, that this phone call had never taken place, and that the Czech government stood behind its original report that Atta had met with an Iraqi agent in Prague. Oh, and the Times made use of this fictitious phone call in an editorial.


28 posted on 08/13/2005 9:18:59 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Let the record reflect that Mohammed Atta used false IDs and indentites.


29 posted on 08/13/2005 9:22:07 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Myrddin; piasa
Anyway, the beauty of data mining is that it doesn't matter that things get shared. There is so many little pieces of data that sharing just starts linking people together. But Data mining doesn't require thousands of career "analysts" sitting in their offices trying to find ways of undermining republican administrations. That alone makes it a target for dismissal.

Exactamundo!

30 posted on 08/13/2005 10:36:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: conservative in nyc

Rep. Curt Weldon said today on Fox News that there are 15 unexamined boxes of documents(!), and now 11 witnesses(!!), (NOT just 1), who are willing to testify under oath.

He also is calling for 9/11 Staffers to be questioned under oath re: their evident negligence, &/or close-mindedness, &/or cover-up behavior, and/or stonewalling.


31 posted on 08/13/2005 10:42:23 AM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: FReethesheeples

HUAC, anyone?


32 posted on 08/13/2005 3:58:19 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

HUAC, good.

9/11 Commission Cover-up, bad.


33 posted on 08/15/2005 6:50:04 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: FReethesheeples
He also is calling for 9/11 Staffers to be questioned under oath re: their evident negligence, &/or close-mindedness, &/or cover-up behavior, and/or stonewalling

The victims and their families deserve that much.

34 posted on 08/15/2005 6:54:24 PM PDT by TVenn
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To: conservative in nyc

"MoveOn" has an intelligence unit?


35 posted on 08/15/2005 6:57:14 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: TVenn

My comment: "He [Curt Weldon]also is calling for 9/11 Staffers to be questioned under oath re: their evident negligence, &/or close-mindedness, &/or cover-up behavior, and/or stonewalling."

Your comment: "The victims and their families deserve that much."

My response: Amen! I agree! 9/11 Victims & their families deserve as much.


36 posted on 08/15/2005 7:10:26 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: Walkingfeather
May these people Burn in hell!

The commission members need to be dangled over the side of Empire State Building head first.


37 posted on 08/15/2005 7:15:16 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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