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Posted on 08/12/2005 9:29:21 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
The Sept. 11 commission concluded that an intelligence program known as Able Danger "did not turn out to be historically significant," despite hearing a claim that the program had identified the future plot leader Mohammed Atta as a potential terrorist threat more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the commission's former leaders said in a statement on Friday evening.
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In an interview this week, a former senior military officer disputed that the unit members had ever presented to their superiors information that identified Mr. Atta or other suspected members of Al Qaeda. A second former officer said any information presented by the team to the leaders of the Special Operations Command would have been unlikely to be shared outside the command in the environment that prevailed before Sept. 11.
The former defense intelligence official, who was interviewed twice this week, has repeatedly said that Mr. Atta and four others were identified on a chart presented to the Special Operations Command. The former official said the chart identified about 60 probable members of Al Qaeda.
In interviews, former military officers have said the Able Danger unit was established in September 1999 by Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, then the head of the Special Operations Command, under a charter issued by Gen. Hugh Shelton, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. General Shelton, now retired, has said he does not recall the program; General Schoomaker, now the Army chief of staff, has declined to comment, as has Gen. Charles R. Holland, who took over the Special Operations Command in October 2000.
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I've heard that. But if Atta was one of the masterminds of a great plot to take down America, does it make sense that, knowing our borders weren't guarded but we COULD track electronic stuff, that he would lend out his cell phone and credit cards?
The story sounds like Atta wasn't REALLY here, but we THOUGHT he was here, and if we didn't have a wall we may have started tracking him carefully. Well, isn't that exactly what Atta would NOT have wanted?
Wouldn't it make more sense for ATTA to be using OTHER PEOPLE'S identification so as to keep hidden?
No, this explanation just doesn't make sense.
Anyway, the beauty of data mining is that it doesn't matter that things get shared. There is so many little pieces of data that sharing just starts linking people together.
But Data mining doesn't require thousands of career "analysts" sitting in their offices trying to find ways of undermining republican administrations. That alone makes it a target for dismissal.
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It would thus seem important to investigate the conditions (read: Clinton Administration) that led to that environment. Why didn't the 911 commission do that, I wonder?
No mention of 9-11 staffer Alvin Felzenberg changing his story this week.
No mention of the 9-11 Commission staffers scurrying to the National Archives this week, to "check their notes", and how those archives notes are what Hamilton and Keane base their joint statement on.
And no sarcastic giggles about those National Archives compromised, sanitized, Bergerized notes.
Senior Military Officers = Wes Clarke and who else?
They need the more prominent spaces for grieving mothers.
Here's a related story concerning my favorite source of disinformation, the New York Times. Regarding the matter of Mohammed Atta meeting with an Iraqi agent in Prague, the Times did this: it printed a story, quoting an anonymous "Administration official", that Vaclev Havel, the President of the Czech Republic, had privately called the White House and informed the President that Czech intelligence had been wrong, and that the meeting had not taken place. Unfortunately for the Times, this call never happened. Unfortunately for the Times, Vaclev Havel sees their newspaper. Havel promptly issued an official statement, through his spokesman, that this phone call had never taken place, and that the Czech government stood behind its original report that Atta had met with an Iraqi agent in Prague. Oh, and the Times made use of this fictitious phone call in an editorial.
Let the record reflect that Mohammed Atta used false IDs and indentites.
Exactamundo!
Rep. Curt Weldon said today on Fox News that there are 15 unexamined boxes of documents(!), and now 11 witnesses(!!), (NOT just 1), who are willing to testify under oath.
He also is calling for 9/11 Staffers to be questioned under oath re: their evident negligence, &/or close-mindedness, &/or cover-up behavior, and/or stonewalling.
HUAC, anyone?
HUAC, good.
9/11 Commission Cover-up, bad.
The victims and their families deserve that much.
"MoveOn" has an intelligence unit?
My comment: "He [Curt Weldon]also is calling for 9/11 Staffers to be questioned under oath re: their evident negligence, &/or close-mindedness, &/or cover-up behavior, and/or stonewalling."
Your comment: "The victims and their families deserve that much."
My response: Amen! I agree! 9/11 Victims & their families deserve as much.
The commission members need to be dangled over the side of Empire State Building head first.
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