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To: edsheppa
Prove it.

An axiom is a "given." It is self-evident. It is the starting point. It is above and beyond proof unless one wishes to indulge philosophy. For whatever reason, the proponents of the philosophy of evolution have not even begun to recognize or divulge the axiom(s) under which they operate. They just plod along making inferences from physical evidence and pronouncements based on their interpretations, all the while expecting the rest of the world to bow in deference as if they were the only ones capable of doing science.

If it is not self-evident to you that the universe is intelligently designed, then what is? Furthermore, how should we expect the evidence to contradict whatever other axiom you might propose (if you would be so bold as to say what typical evolutionists refuse to recognize or acknowledge).

25 posted on 08/12/2005 5:35:22 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
You are the one who has made a claim and I have challeneged it. I will repeat my challenge. Show even one scientific inference from an assumption of design in the sciences of 150 years ago. This really ought to be easy for you as you have said not just that ID is an axiom, but rather it is the axiom of science up until that time.
32 posted on 08/12/2005 5:45:36 PM PDT by edsheppa
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I don't think he asked you to prove the axiom.

He asked for one scientific advance that rested in a meaningfull way on the axiom you stated was the basis for all science prior to 150 years ago. Should be simple enough.

38 posted on 08/12/2005 5:50:37 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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