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WORST PRESIDENT EVER (vote)
8/12/2005

Posted on 08/12/2005 3:25:54 PM PDT by hang 'em

Who is/was the WORST U.S. PRESIDENT EVER? Carter? Clinton? Make your choice and state your reasons.


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To: Lincarhamus

Taft busted more than three times the trusts of T.R. in his four years in office. Actually, T.R. was critical of trust busting. As long as they were "good trusts" (slavishly followed him) they could, indeed should, grow bigger. He only wanted to smash "bad trusts" that refused to toe the line. Read the Progressive Party (1912) platform plank, written by George Perkins of the Morgan interests, on trusts. It is a real eye opener.


261 posted on 08/12/2005 5:33:44 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Achedemia and the MSM hold in highest esteem those presidents who have done the most to expand the power of the presidency (often at the expense of the other branches of government). No president shifted the balance of the separation of powers and changed the meaning of the constitution more than Lincoln.


262 posted on 08/12/2005 5:33:47 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Austin Willard Wright

WTF ???


263 posted on 08/12/2005 5:36:52 PM PDT by Rise of South Park Republicans (The Founding Fathers wanted disagreements as long as we all agree America kicks as* - Eric Cartman)
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To: Rise of South Park Republicans

WTF? Huh? Are you talkin' to me?


264 posted on 08/12/2005 5:40:45 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
You posted your last reply to me

That's lapel and Robert Ferrell not Farrell

266 posted on 08/12/2005 5:42:14 PM PDT by Rise of South Park Republicans (The Founding Fathers wanted disagreements as long as we all agree America kicks as* - Eric Cartman)
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To: All

Seems a tie up between Klinton and Karter. Both dispicable scoundrels. But I think Klinton deserves top honors.

With Klinton being two for one, and his wife the possible next president - rue the day - you who voted for Karter will change your vote...guaranteed. The Klinton dynasty lives on and on.


267 posted on 08/12/2005 5:43:33 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: hang 'em

In terms of performance in office, Carter is worst by a mile. Johnson and Clinton were terrible men but sometimes effective as Presidents.


268 posted on 08/12/2005 5:45:08 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Those who do not industrialize become hewers of wood and haulers of water." -- Alexander Hamilton)
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To: hang 'em

Carter


269 posted on 08/12/2005 5:45:45 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: Lincarhamus
FDR, like Hoover, rejected the free market or invisible. Hence, the depression lasted a decade, a record! This caused much needless suffering. Previous depressions which had been fought by retrenhment and clamping down inflation had lasted only two years. Some humanitarian!! Of course, FDR's AAA and NRA lined the pockets of Southern planters and drove thousands of blacks from their land. In contrast to this GOP predecessors, he refused to support anti-lynching bill.

FDR didn't revise Smoot-Hawley only after he trade restrictions did even more damage under his watch. Cordell Hull urged him to endorse trade easing and debt cancellation at the London Conference in 1933 but FDR refused because he believed it would undermine his fascist NRA. In the late 1930s as was was almost inevitable, he finally listened to Hull but, by then, it was too late.

270 posted on 08/12/2005 5:48:17 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: HangnJudge

Herbert Hoover if I understood rightly, was a God-fearing man. He did many good things before he became President. He tried to initate some good things when the Depression hit but his enemies (namely the Dims) blocked his efforts.


271 posted on 08/12/2005 5:49:53 PM PDT by AReaganGirl (Jesus came to take away our self righteousness and give us His righteousness!)
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To: Lincarhamus
Poor William Howard appreciates it! I much prefer to Taft, who respected the rule of law, to T.R. who thought that the presidential "discretion" in the "national service" should trump the rule of law. T.R., of course, also supported socialized medicine (described in Bull Moose platform) and actually was the only president to argue that war per se was a good thing!!! (read Howard Beale's bio for some revealing pro-war quotes).
272 posted on 08/12/2005 5:51:56 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: MikeinIraq
Jimmah Cahtah was just an inept buffoon...Clinton was doing it on purpose...

Ditto.

273 posted on 08/12/2005 5:53:02 PM PDT by Barnacle (You may now return to your normal broadcast schedule.)
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To: hang 'em

274 posted on 08/12/2005 5:54:43 PM PDT by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: hang 'em

Carter. He's made even idiots look normal by comparison.


275 posted on 08/12/2005 5:56:43 PM PDT by pankot
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To: HawaiianGecko

Pierce was the first President from New Hampshire and the public has wisely chosen not to elect another.


276 posted on 08/12/2005 5:59:45 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Austin Willard Wright

"Of course, FDR's AAA and NRA lined the pockets of Southern planters and drove thousands of blacks from their land."

Exactly where are you getting your information from. The reason so much of FDR's aid went to the Southern states is because in many Southern states, there was a budding Socialist movement, because the region had been long mired in economic stagnation as a result of the consequences of Yankee misrule in the Reconstruction period. For example, in Huey Long's home parish of Winn, Eugene Debs was a revered figure, in several of his bids, he garnered more than 30% of the parish's vote. Where do you think Huey learned most of his issue positions from. In fact, the Huey Long approach of a sort of socialistic-fascist approach was gaining alot of popularity among poor whites in the Southeast, and that's the reason FDR poured so much money into the region, because during this time, there was real danger of insurrection.

And I have one question, exactly where are you getting your information that says that blacks were forcibly removed from their land.


277 posted on 08/12/2005 6:06:52 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: hang 'em
KENNEDY!

We could have recovered from FDR.
Carter and Clinton rode in on JFK's media machine.
And Kennedy started the whole '60 downslide into what we have today.

Oh, and he turned a perfectly good clandestine war into the quagmire we hear so much about nowadays, he lied better than FDR and Slick Willie dreamed of, got clinton on track, created a myth that we still suffer from, and left Vietnam for the left to build itself on for the next (now) 42 years.

278 posted on 08/12/2005 6:11:12 PM PDT by norton
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To: x
“the contract between the nation and the states created institutions and established obligations that couldn't simply be repudiated on a whim.”

Of course they can. Though it would take a majority of states today in order to dissolve the contract. Back then the Citizen was the citizen of the state first and foremost. (which was recently tested by I think 13 states just a few years ago, They where going to dissolve the constitution if the Federal government didn’t stop it’s mad spending (they needed more states and it failed.))

John Fielding argument is weak at best. Prior to the 14th amendment the Citizen was Citizen of the State secondary to the country.

Your argument that right makes right is true. That is what I was saying earlier. Lincoln chose to kill off 5% of the population of the US during his use of might in order to make his right.

279 posted on 08/12/2005 7:35:54 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
" Your argument that right makes right is true." = Your argument that MIGHT makes right is true.

sorry about that.

280 posted on 08/12/2005 7:39:53 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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