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Gorelick memo; Mary Jo White response (see pdf copies)

Posted on 08/12/2005 1:55:55 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: doug from upland

May 18, 1998? Where did this come from?


41 posted on 08/12/2005 3:19:32 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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42 posted on 08/12/2005 3:27:18 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Refill with only real Kikkoman Soy Sauce)
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43 posted on 08/12/2005 3:27:41 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Refill with only real Kikkoman Soy Sauce)
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44 posted on 08/12/2005 3:28:17 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Refill with only real Kikkoman Soy Sauce)
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45 posted on 08/12/2005 3:49:05 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Refill with only real Kikkoman Soy Sauce)
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Great. Thanks.


46 posted on 08/12/2005 3:50:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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Many thanks- crosslinking;

 Able Danger, 9-11 Report, Gorelick, and so much more...

47 posted on 08/12/2005 4:23:15 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: kcvl

Great teamwork guys!


48 posted on 08/12/2005 4:28:39 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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Please check out this link:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/report/2004/doj-911-supplementarymaterial.pdf

It contains much more than the two memos in #2, as well as those two memos. On page 18 of the link, there is a hand-written approval by Gorelick.


49 posted on 08/12/2005 7:36:12 PM PDT by Helen
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There are so many threads and I'm not sure if this has been noted. I haven't seen it if it has.

Please check out this link:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/report/2004/doj-911-supplementarymaterial.pdf

It contains much more than the two memos in #2, as well as those two memos. It also contains a mark-up and the final draft of the "Procedure for contacts between the FBI and the Criminal Division..." On page 18 of the link, there is a hand-written approval by Gorelick.


50 posted on 08/12/2005 8:49:05 PM PDT by Helen
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To: Helen

Thanks.


51 posted on 08/12/2005 8:55:53 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: kcvl

Someone just sent me FReepmail saying you were suspended. What?


52 posted on 08/12/2005 9:31:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Helen

Thanks- copied & saved.


53 posted on 08/13/2005 1:36:49 AM PDT by backhoe (Has that Clinton "Legacy" made *you* feel safer, yet?)
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To: kcvl

Gorelick should & can be sued civilly for gross dereliction of duty, for contributory negligence and culpability in 3,000 deaths (& counting), and for gross negligence as the DOJ "Wall of Separation" memo author, which greatly & unconscionably expanded the "letter of the law" to, in effect, protect spies and terrorists.


54 posted on 08/13/2005 10:55:26 AM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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I'm slightly confused about the timeline. If Atta was in Prague that would put him in contact with the Iraqi intellegence and make the 911-Iraq connection but that doesn't seem to fit with the Able Danger timeline. What am I missing? Just what is the Iraq-911 connection?
55 posted on 08/13/2005 11:12:46 AM PDT by openotherend
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Someone else who has paid more attention will need to answer. Is it possible that the info was ignored because there was a human error in reporting the timeline?


56 posted on 08/13/2005 11:22:38 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: openotherend

August 11, 2005
Whitewashing the wall?

We've often expressed our disgust with the 9/11 Commission. Our grievances have included the inclusion on the panel of Jamie Gorelick whose actions in creating the intelligence wall were, or should have been, at the center of the investigation; the use of the hearings by Gorelick and her fellow Democratic operative Richard Ben-Veniste for raw partisan purposes; the Commission's half-baked recommendations for reform which, as Richard Posner has shown, are almost certainly counter-productive; and its tactics in ramming those recommendations into law.

But the Commission may be worse than I suspected. I'm referring to the Able Danger scandal. As AP reports, the Commission has confirmed that it "knew military intelligence officials had identified lead hijacker Mohamed Atta as a member of al-Qaida who might be part of U.S.-based terror cell more than a year before the terror attacks, but decided not to include that in its final report." The admission that it had this information comes on the heels of its claim that, to the contrary, the panel was unaware of intelligence specifically naming Atta. That position became "inoperative" after Rep. Curt Weldon exposed it as false.

What's the significance of the Commission's admission that it had the information on Atta? Primarily, it has to do with the Gorelick intelligence "wall" I referred to above that prevented intelligence agents from comparing notes with criminal investigators. As John Podhoretz and Andrew McCarthy at NRO's Corner note, that wall, essentially a footnote in the Commission's report, may well have caused the linchpin of the 9/11 attacks to evade capture by American law enforcement. The exclusion of the information about Atta, and the subsequent claim that the Commission never received this information, would make sense in the context of a whitewash of the wall. Maybe we should get Ben-Veniste to investigate this.

Podhoretz also speculates that the omission of the information on Atta may have been an attempt by the Commission to "protect its timeline" on the whereabouts of Atta in 1999. That timeline purported to debunk the Atta-Iraq connection, a task that, in Podhoretz's words "was of vital importance to Democrats, who had become focused almost obsessively on the preposterous notion that there was no relation whatever between Al Qaeda and Iraq."

Podhoretz submits that Able Danger is becoming the biggest story of the summer, and he may be right.

JOHN adds: Yes, and how long would you have to scrutinize MSM accounts of "Able Danger" before you'd find an acknowledgement of the relationship between this failure--not of intelligence, but of communication--and the Patriot Act?


57 posted on 08/13/2005 11:25:20 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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58 posted on 08/13/2005 11:49:28 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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Bump


59 posted on 08/13/2005 6:04:34 PM PDT by jdhljc169
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bttt


60 posted on 08/17/2005 6:20:39 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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