Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Supercuts sued for ban on Spanish
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 12, 2005 | NATASHA KORECKI

Posted on 08/12/2005 6:25:58 AM PDT by jaydubya2

Some Chicago businesses post "Se Habla Espanol" signs to boast about their Spanish-speaking employees.

But two hair stylists said in a federal lawsuit Thursday that their former bosses at Supercuts posted a different sign:

"Speaking a language other than English is not only disrespectful, it's also prohibited."

Stylists say the notice was put up in 2003, directed at employees as Supercuts managers allegedly barred them from speaking Spanish anywhere at work -- including in the break room or other places outside the earshot of customers.

Supercuts says there is no such ban.

"We absolutely, vehemently deny the allegations and believe the evidence will show otherwise," attorney Davi Hirsch said Thursday.

EEOC on the case

The federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which joined in the lawsuit, argues that such a ban is a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act that prohibits employment discrimination based on national origin.

The EEOC, along with private attorney Kamran Memon, brought the lawsuit against Primps LLC and Management Advantage Group LLC, which own more than 20 Supercuts salons in the city and suburbs.

One of the stylists, Rosa Gonzalez, 54, of Chicago, said her bosses shot her dirty looks or would reprimand her if she spoke Spanish to co-workers while on break, or at other times, even when customers weren't around.

The ban was lifted, she said, only if a customer didn't know any English.

"I think it's not fair," said Gonzalez, who came to the United States 27 years ago from Guanajuato, Mexico. "Business[es] need to understand that we are free to speak our language."

No such rule, company says

Memon said Gonzalez and another stylist who filed the lawsuit, Blanca Sauceda, were reprimanded sometimes several times a week for speaking in Spanish on breaks. The two worked for the company at various locations for more than 10 years.

They ultimately quit at their Michigan Avenue location after they felt uncomfortable at work.

Memon said the two wouldn't challenge a policy that limits Spanish being spoken in front of English-speaking customers. But Memon said Gonzalez and Sauceda were told it was "ignorant" and "disrespectful" to speak Spanish at work.

EEOC trial attorney Ann Henry said the suit was brought after managers allegedly enforced a blanket ban at "more than one location."

But Hirsch, who represents the 20 Supercuts owned by Management Advantage Group, said no such ban exists and that the suggestion of one is ludicrous because Supercuts' work force is heavily Hispanic.

Hirsch said there is a written policy limiting language other than English.

"The goal of the policy was to speak essentially whatever language you chose in the lunchroom or on breaks, when you're not servicing customers," Hirsch said.

Hirsch questioned why the employees didn't raise concerns until after they left the company.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: eeoc; englishplease; lawsuit; scamlaw
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 221-240241-260261-280281-285 next last
To: jaydubya2

Where I get my haircut, a friend who works there said they are not allowed to speak Vietnamese. (As far as I know, that's the only language native to employees besides English.) I thought it was a silly rule to ban it completely, as long as they weren't intimidating customers.


241 posted on 08/12/2005 1:35:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: magnieye

Bump for later


242 posted on 08/12/2005 1:42:30 PM PDT by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: jaydubya2
Would it be too obvious to say how ridiculous this is? I mean, really.

This is the United States of America. In this country, we speak and conduct business in one language: English. If you do not wish to assmiliate the language and culture of a country you so desperately wanted to get into, then why did you come here? Pack your stuff and get out.

It could not be any more simple than that.

243 posted on 08/12/2005 1:50:17 PM PDT by Houmatt (Just when you think people cannot sink any lower..............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

That's because the people speaking the other languages were willing to defer to English as the common language. In 1900, there were more German-speakers in San Antonio, Tx than either English-speakers or Spanish-speakers. However, English was the cvommon language of both business and commerce. My father grew up in a household where only German was spoken and his only schooling was given in the German language, but when his family moved to a farm in South San, he had learn to speak English since the neighbots were mostly English. The German Kultur was respected until the First World War when Germans were treated as the enemy and German customs became suspect. After the war, the Germans began to be assimilated into the English culture.


244 posted on 08/12/2005 1:54:44 PM PDT by RobbyS (chirho)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

There is always a problem that they might. They do makes nasty remarks about Anglo customers unless the Anglo hints that he might know some Spanish. Even then they will test your knowledge. Anglos are not the only racists.


245 posted on 08/12/2005 1:58:01 PM PDT by RobbyS (chirho)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 241 | View Replies]

To: Stu Cohen

Millions of Americans speak Spanish.


246 posted on 08/12/2005 2:52:00 PM PDT by Misterioso
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 227 | View Replies]

To: magnieye
Our diversity is what makes us great.

I often here this, or other vitiations, and I can safely assume you mean ethnic/cultural diversity.

I'm just curious. How exactly does ethnic/cultural diversity make us great? Or by inference, how does it make us better than we would be without it? Can you describe the theory or process by which this happens?

I'm serious here. I'd like to know the reasoning behind the statement. Yes, it's what were supposed to say in polite company when discussing any issue regarding culture and such.

But what exactly does it mean?

247 posted on 08/12/2005 5:52:04 PM PDT by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Modernman
If your employees are making sexual comments or whatever about another employee who doesn't speak the language, that person won't even know they're being harassed, so it's a non-issue. The only people who would have a problem would be other Spanish-speakers, who would presumably tell you if they found what was being said to be offensive.

You are woefully ignorant of the intricacies of modern sexual harassment laws if you think that. Seriously, you're way off base here.

248 posted on 08/12/2005 6:05:49 PM PDT by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: ozarkgirl
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific, the diners are in the USA and serve ethnic food. The use of a native language while overseas, I thought, was just common sense. That they use English is a bonus, not always found.

My great-grand father, Frank, came to America from Germany. He forbade the speaking of German in his house as he understood mastery of English was a key to success. He also had a skill and was able to support his family, which was good as "welfare" did not exist as it does today.

OTOH, we have required all of children to take a pair of second languages while in school....and we get to practice along with them. Comes in handy when traveling or working overseas.

Have a fine weekend and sorry for the confusion.
249 posted on 08/12/2005 6:34:29 PM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 118 | View Replies]

To: absolootezer0
LOL
Well, we go for

Hello
Goodbye,
Please,
thank you
Call the police I am sick
Where is the toilet
How much? Too much!

Enjoy your travels, no matter limited, ours is a wonderful world to behold.
250 posted on 08/12/2005 6:37:45 PM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 120 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
Whether first generation immigrants have a hard time assimilating, they for sure may have a very hard time learning to speak English, even if they already read it and write it.

So very true.

But the problem is that first generation immigrants of the Spanish variety have largely negelected to direct their children to learn English as their primary language.

Most people understand that new arrivals of any variety have a difficult time learning Enlish.....Its the history of our country But the newly arrived Mexicans and other Spanish speaking peoples flooding America now are the very first major group of immigrants to work diligently to insure that their children do not make English their prime language.

That is an undeniable fact and a terrible pity for their own children.

251 posted on 08/12/2005 6:57:53 PM PDT by squirt-gun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | View Replies]

To: squirt-gun
We have over 65,000 immigrants from El Salvador, Nicaragua and Honduras in the area ~ very few Mexicans in fact, and are now receiving Peruvians and Argentines.

The kids here are speaking English. Otherwise, they'll have to learn Gujarat, Korean or Urdu to discuss business with their non-Spanish speaking bosses!

252 posted on 08/12/2005 7:31:07 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 251 | View Replies]

To: hispanarepublicana
But my hispanic friends' grandparents HAD to learn and use English because in their day there was no "press 2 for Spanish".

We're spoon-feeding today's Spanish-speaking immigrants, and they're not assimilating as well as the Asians, for instance, who don't get the "press 2 for Chinese" option

I've seen several comments from you. Overall, you've been a tremendous vote for common sense.

253 posted on 08/12/2005 11:32:35 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 221 | View Replies]

To: Misterioso
Millions of Americans speak Spanish.

Yes, and over a hundred million don't. I'm not sure what the relevance is.

254 posted on 08/14/2005 12:44:10 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 246 | View Replies]

To: magnieye

"To believe that English is the only language spoken in the United States is shortsighted and misinformed."

I totally agree!!!!!!

1/2 of these people that respond with dimwitted remarks about how they do not like people to talk in their native language is stupid. By the way... are any of them of British origin??? I think not. Just because "white" American nationals have lost most of their European culture.. through IMMIGRATION I might add... does not mean someone else should throw their own away to make your life better!!
We must not forget that the US is a melting pot... remember??? You can't stop Globalization... so GET OVER IT!!


255 posted on 06/13/2006 8:30:06 PM PDT by whatever_and_I_am_ENGLISH (AMÉRICA, EL HERMOSO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

Comment #256 Removed by Moderator

Comment #257 Removed by Moderator

To: absolootezer0

Customs agents in miami sued to get paid EXTRA because they spoke spanish. They were native speakers and did not recieve any special training.

It seems smart for the business world to push english because it keeps employee costs down. Just wait, these idiots will soon not only REQUIRE supercuts to speak spanish they will make them pay extra AND keep them from being fired.

The no spanish in the break room seems a very big disembling on the part of the plaintiffs.


258 posted on 07/11/2006 7:22:30 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: magnieye

HOGWASH.

I come from a long line of immigrants and learning English is part of the UNITY of this nation.

I was important to learn the language of the old country but it is equally important to know the language of the new HOME.

English is the unifying language of this nation. It is the glue that builds assimilation and only those who want to stop assimilation oppose mandatory learning of english.


The law in the USA is very specific. Contracts in English are enforcable even against those who sign and do not speak english because EVERYONE doing business in the USA knows english is the common language. If you are going to sign a contract then bring a translator to read it for you. (family member, friend, whatever) There is actually a famous case out of miami where a car dealer took the case through the court system because a line of hispanics were saying they should not be bound by non-spanish contracts. The courts sided with the car dealer. (I believe the plaintiff in that case was "Machado")

Knowing a second language and using it is business is a CONVENIENCE for the customer but it does not relieve the customer from the OBLIGATION of knowing english.

Save your ethnic stereotyping for the next clan meeting.

Those who enjoy the ethnic foods of their roots are true americans who have given sons' and daughters' blood for this nation to build this nation. The USA is home and heart. We are the melting pot not the multicultural balkanized cafeteria tray the left is trying to foist upon us via divid and conquer.

Language balkanization is just a way to seperate us. NO THANKS.


259 posted on 07/11/2006 7:37:34 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Jotmo

I remember a documentary about the mop up opperations in post WWII pacific.

The Japanese soldiers could not understand who such defferent people could work together.

Our unity makes us great. Our ability to take all the best parts of different cultures and blend together to common goals.

You can not work to common goals if you are balkanized and seperated by language.

Somehow I think the left is trying to recreate the tower of bable.


260 posted on 07/11/2006 7:41:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 247 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 221-240241-260261-280281-285 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson