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To: BushisTheMan

This is not a "conspiracy theory".

Former Clinton Administration National Security Advisor Sandy Berger pled guilty to smuggling five classified documents, including a highly secret memorandum, out of the National Archives related to the Clinton administration’s response to terrorism. Berger, who was preparing for his testimony before the 9/11 Commission at the time, later destroyed the documents, shredding them with scissors at his office, and lied to investigators.

That part is not supposition. Those are facts. Furthermore, a logical timeline has now been established. Accordingly, it is perfectly reasonable to at least suspect, if not conclude, that information about the existence of this team and its reports could be the items destroyed.

No tin foil hat is required.


33 posted on 08/11/2005 11:39:02 AM PDT by soxfan
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To: soxfan; BushisTheMan
Totally agree, soxfan. This is not tinfoil hat stuff at all. Sandy Berger did not plead guilty to a wild-eyed conspiracy theory. In fact, logic and reason suggests that what we think we know about Berger's motivation and guilty plea does not adequately explain Berger's behavior. He was many things, but stupid and rash are not among them. Whatever Berger was attempting to do, it was much, much bigger than trying to cull out embarrassing stuff about Clinton's weakness and the failed LA Millenium plot. All that was already known, and the administration had survived it handily.

I have always thought this was misdirection. Classic clinton stuff. Admit to something sufficiently scandalous to satisfy the hounds, but inspecific enough to be survivable. Protect the crown jewels.

So what would be so vital, so compelling, that a former NSA director would risk everything to see it doesn't come to light? He had to know he'd be caught--yet whatever it was he was after was worth it. What could possibly be that valuable? Mohammed Atta's name on a 1999 WH document routed thru NSA or DoD sure qualifies, imho.

Interesting tidbit: Welson says that the first time Able Danger was brought to the attention of the 9-11 Commission was in Oct. 2003. Wonder what specific date that was? Sandy Berger purloined four documents from the archives on October 2, 2003.

43 posted on 08/11/2005 12:45:31 PM PDT by Eroteme
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To: soxfan; BushisTheMan
I've been looking into media reports of what Sandy was alleged to have Burgled.

The Washington Post and New York Times reported in March and April that the five classified documents were different versions of Richard Clarke's classified millennium "after action review" from EARLY 2000. He also took the handwritten notes he made in the national archive about the after action review. Berger shred three of the five versions because they were allegedly identical. Berger returned the two remaining stolen copies of the report and his handwritten notes after he was called out for stealing the documents by archives staff.

The NYT obtained this information from a Berger "associate" when his plea bargain was announced; the Washington Post's source is less clear, although they also spoke to a "Berger associate who declined to be identified by name but was speaking with Berger's permission."

The Able Danger team put together the al-Qaeda org chart and was prohibited by the Clintonista lawyers from divulging Mohammad Atta's cell to the FBI in SUMMER 2000. So if (and it's a big if) you believe the MSM reports, Sandy wasn't burgling the chart or Atta information.

He could have been burgling other information about Able Danger, though. The project began in 1999 and ended in February 2001. They likely delivered their final report on which al-Qaeda cells to take out in January 2001, while Clinton was still in office.
45 posted on 08/11/2005 1:27:38 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: soxfan

I agree with you .. I think this is exactly what they were trying to hide. It had to be something WORTH getting caught stealing - and the name "Atta" on any of those documents would have been dynamite.


72 posted on 08/11/2005 10:14:36 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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