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Mark Steyn: All men are not equal
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 08/13/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 08/11/2005 7:47:57 AM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78

Nice post!


41 posted on 08/11/2005 8:49:06 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: TChris

I could never have said it better.


42 posted on 08/11/2005 8:50:45 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: TheBigB

You don’t have to be bananas to teach in an Islamic school but it helps.
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This is my favorite line from it.

And yes he takes apart the nanny state and multiculturalism in one essay.


43 posted on 08/11/2005 8:50:50 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Pokey78
DYSFUNCTIONAL - AND YOU CAN'T FIX IT

THIS IS JUST A BIT OF WHAT ALL MUSLIMS, INCLUDING SO-CALLED MODERATES, SIGN UP FOR WHEN THEY SAY THE BISMALLAH, "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET"!

KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

© Religion of Peace

KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
44 posted on 08/11/2005 8:52:23 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks, great as usual.


45 posted on 08/11/2005 8:53:04 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty hereā€¦ move on.)
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To: Pokey78
I appalud Steyn and some other conservatives for finally telling the truth about what backwards kooks the Islamofascists really are, what a deliberately impoverished culture they derive from and how they are a bunch of turbaned hillbillies.

It's overdue in the PC media.
46 posted on 08/11/2005 9:10:55 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Rummyfan
The nuttier parts of the Muslim world simply have to be made accountable by sane people across civilizations before these things happen.

This seems analagous to bad-dog neighborhood situation.

You've got some neighbors whose dog got out of their fence and bit one of your kids. The neighbors say, 'we're good people, and that dog is a nice dog, and if your kids hadn't been making noise near the fence well this would never have happened. Deal with it.'

You tell the cops but the chief is beholden to your neighbor, so he tells you it's no big deal, and maybe you should keep your kids quiet in the yard.

You reply to your neighbor 'You claim to be good people, but your reaction to this situation makes me suspect otherwise, and I have noticed you training that dog to act violently. Now, I have a big shotgun and I'm gonna be on the porch. And if that dog starts toward the fence I'm taking it down, which you do a week later, and the neighbors start moaning and complaining at you, and the cops are seeing what they can do to have you arrested. Then another mean dog shows up at the neighbors' and comes over the fence and bites another kid. So you shoot that dog, but another shows up in a couple of days. At what point do you kick your neighbor's ass and accept it's not a dog problem but a neighbor problem?

If the Middle East can't keep their home-bred whackos suppressed to the point that they are a menace to the civilized world, then something's gotta be done. We aren't by nature a hateful people, but we are a very practical bunch of people. Our message to the Middle East is, personal issues aside, we are eventually going to hold you accountable for your dogs, as a simple practical matter, and if one of my kids really gets badly hurt the response is going to be very practical and very personal and it's not going to stop with your dogs.

47 posted on 08/11/2005 9:14:02 AM PDT by Monti Cello
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To: Pokey78

Utterly refreshing and somewhat shocking to read the truth elucidated in such a candid manner. But sad that the statment of truth should be so refreshing and shocking.


48 posted on 08/11/2005 9:14:51 AM PDT by Blennos (Baton Rouge)
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To: Blennos
Utterly refreshing and somewhat shocking to read the truth elucidated in such a candid manner. But sad that the statment of truth should be so refreshing and shocking.

Betrayed by the spell checker: "statment" == "statement".

49 posted on 08/11/2005 9:17:04 AM PDT by Blennos (Baton Rouge)
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To: Monti Cello
If the Middle East can't keep their home-bred whackos suppressed to the point that they are a menace to the civilized world, then something's gotta be done. We aren't by nature a hateful people, but we are a very practical bunch of people. Our message to the Middle East is, personal issues aside, we are eventually going to hold you accountable for your dogs, as a simple practical matter, and if one of my kids really gets badly hurt the response is going to be very practical and very personal and it's not going to stop with your dogs.

I think we've already delivered the message. In that neighborhood, only Iran and the Palis don't seem to get it. Hopefully, we'll deal with them soon.
50 posted on 08/11/2005 9:26:33 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings

Ping


51 posted on 08/11/2005 9:40:39 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Pokey78
The 21 July bombers are all hot for their 72 virgins but their bombs refuse to perform, like a bunch of dud fireworks.

Just occurrs to me. We were being told that the first gang of bombers didn't know they were destined to be human bombs. How do we explain this second group of would-be bombers then?

52 posted on 08/11/2005 9:43:51 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Pokey78

Well, BRAVO!

Too bad so many will dismiss this. He is right.


53 posted on 08/11/2005 9:44:25 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Travis McGee

Now that Sir, is one helluva mind opening post.


54 posted on 08/11/2005 9:45:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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later read/ping?


55 posted on 08/11/2005 9:46:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Pokey78; Felicity Fahrquar
The shoebomber gets his bomb on the plane but has only a damp book of matches

Damp matches ping...

56 posted on 08/11/2005 9:49:14 AM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (When the disbeliever sees this, he will say, 'How nice if I was also turned into sand.')
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To: Pokey78

I'd been thinking Mark was off his game, lately, and then he comes up with a gem like this.

This is really, really excellent.


57 posted on 08/11/2005 9:52:14 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (NRA)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

58 posted on 08/11/2005 9:53:43 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76)
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To: Pokey78
The only thing these guys have going for them is our undervaluation of ourselves and perverse boosting up of them. By pretending that all cultures are equal, multiculturalism doesn&#8217;t &#8216;preserve&#8217; traditional cultures so much as sustain them in an artificial state that ensures they&#8217;ll develop bizarre pathologies and mutate into some freakish hybrid of the worst of both worlds. With the Innu, the destructive &#8216;compassion&#8217; of guilt-ridden white liberals is no big deal &#8212; at least for us. The Innu live a long way away from anybody else and so for the most part they mostly harm each other.

Couldn't agree more!!

By far our biggest problem (much bigger than the islamists) is "the destructive 'compassion' of guilt-ridden white liberals"

59 posted on 08/11/2005 10:02:35 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: George W. Bush

The Syrians don't seem to get it, either.


60 posted on 08/11/2005 10:05:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (NRA)
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