The New GOP Betrays America

Newsmax ^ | Thursday, Aug. 11, 2005 | Diane Alden

[The_Eaglet]

I think anyone who knows their history well understands that the Supreme Court can overrule prior rulings. It's part of our history. And the agenda of conservatives is to do exactly that with Roe. The real question is whether Roberts will. But I don't expect we'll know until after he's on the Court.

"ROE VS. WADE is the settled law of the land … There’s nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent."

It sounds like we already know based on his own words.

[Happy2BMe]

" And what makes you think you speak for all evangelicals?"

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The ACLU will gladly speak for all evangelicals . .

[FBD]

>"I think that many third party voters on FR are too coward to admit it since once they do so, they know that they will be branded a "stupid" and rightly so because it is stupid to waste a vote for a third party.<

-How amusinmg: folks (like you), who who think they can castigate and intimidate fellow conservatives who vote for principals over party, with slurs of "coward and stupid".

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"Always vote for principle,though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." ~ John Quincy Adams

[bayourod]

"Of course you believed every word that the homeless man said about the subject also."

What are you talking about?

[mississippi red-neck]

And everybody else if they can.

[Sam the Sham]

A GOP candidate who ignored the OBL and ran hard on immigration would do something no Bush has ever done. Carry California. With California back the national party will be on much stronger electoral ground.

[Psion]

"small government is not always wise or the best option..as long as individuals have power to pursue their dreams, government can help..that's the essence of Bush's governmental view"......

Bush was not given a mandate to create an extra-Constitutional America.

The United States Constitution, in it's original intent and purpose, should be respected as the Supreme Law of the Land, which it is.

[George W. Bush]

"ROE VS. WADE is the settled law of the land … There’s nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent."

It sounds like we already know based on his own words.

Those were hearings for the position of appellate court. Generally, what he was saying was that he would consider Roe settled law and respect precedents and not give such cases grounds to come to the Supreme Court unless there was a legitimate cause.

Simply put, it was a correct position if he wanted to sail through. Which is what he did.

And it also gave him his stealth cover for his upcoming hearings.

There's nothing here that will prevent him from revisiting Roe as a Supreme. In fact, only SCOTUS can overturn Roe, not any lower court.

Like I said, we won't know until it's too late. Too bad Roberts isn't more like Thomas or Scalia. With Thomas especially, his writings on abortion made him very well known. The same with Bork. But those writings also were what defeated Bork and nearly sunk Thomas.

Wait and see. That's all we can really do anyway. I find his pro-bono work on the sodomy case to be far more disturbing than this statement on how he saw himself applying Roe on an appelate court.

[FBD]

-I agree

[Happy2BMe]

#226 - I agree.

(Who is this "Miracle Man"?)

[Toddsterpatriot]

With Thomas especially, his writings on abortion made him very well known.

You sure about that? IIRC he was asked during the hearings about Roe and said he had never discussed it.

[Mase]

He is not even an American citizen.

Hey jveritas, the isolationist/protectionist wing of FR loves to quote Teddy Roosevelt. I've not seen them post this one:

Americanism is a question of principle, of purpose, of idealism, or character; it is not a matter of birthplace or creed or line of descent. – Theodore Roosevelt, speech at Washington, DC (1909)

[Dat Mon]

Its ironic...but I think that 'Christian compassion' is one of the talking points / emotional appeals that will be used to hold part of the Republican base together in this march towards the late Robert Bartley inspired open / borderless society.

You can see that talking point employed on this thread already.

At the same time...some of the party leadership , allied with various Hispanic groups and business councils...is pulling out all the stops to pull more Hispanics into the bipartisan immigration 'reform' coalition...perhaps to replace those hard core conservatives who will abandon the party over immigration.

[Age of Reason]

At the heart of the New GOP belief system is a post-Cold War philosophy wherein borders are meaningless, and trade and commerce are the religion that replaced Christianity.

Like Karl Marx, only . . .

"Buy from each country according to its resources, sell to each country according to its needs."

Borders just get in the way of making money and paving over nature, don't you know.

[Age of Reason]

Oh, and let me add that borders also get in the way of homogenizing cultures, too.

We must realize, that the only worthy way to live is to have all places look like they were designed by Disney.

[jmc813]

Ms. Alden meet communist president of Venuzeula, hugo chavez.

I feel that CAFTA is one of those few issues that conservatives in good faith can disagree upon. My 100% ACU rated congressman Scott Garrett voted against CAFTA. Would you care to trash him?

[George W. Bush]

IIRC he was asked during the hearings about Roe and said he had never discussed it.

As I recall it, he made a number of speeches and some writing on abortion being a Holocaust for American blacks before he served on the Court of Appeals, back when he was director of EEOC. However, he didn't write any formal legal position papers on these topics. As you know, almost his entire body of legal work was in that one year he served on the Court Of Appeals. Of course, this is very different from Roberts.

[GOP_1900AD]

Otherwise known as idiotic, utopian, transnational "progressivism!"

[stopsign]

"Always vote for principle,though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." ~ John Quincy Adams

Man I have never heard that quote before, I will be using it from now on.

Kind of what I said,(see #216) just man Adams said it soooooo much better than me... : ) <<< me

[mississippi red-neck]

It will do nothing to strengthen and promote U.S. sovereignty or put America before its desire to create a global economic and political empire.

Your place in the world will be almost totally economic and utilitarian. America will evolve from a constitutional republic to a commercial republic, where trade and commerce are the reason we exist, placing them above all else.

Finally someone has put into words what some of us have been seeing and trying to say.

This lady has absolutely nailed it.

We are going to find ourselves In a country and world ruled by board of incontestible corporate wealthy elites who make the laws and that govern our daily existence.

The basic theme of the supreme law [as most of what comes out of Washington now] will be based on what's good for big business and their coffers is good for everybody and the rights and freedoms of the peasants be damned.

Thanks for the great post.