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9/11 Commission Wants Atta Claims Pursued
Associated Press/AP Online ^ | Wednesday, 10 August 2005, 18:00 CDT | John J. Lumpkin

Posted on 08/10/2005 7:05:39 PM PDT by dila813

9/11 Commission Wants Atta Claims Pursued


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WASHINGTON -- Members of the Sept. 11 commission want to know whether defense intelligence officials knew four of the hijackers were part of an al-Qaida cell but failed to tell law enforcement.

Lee Hamilton, co-chairman of the now-disbanded commission, said Tuesday that members of the panel could issue a statement by the end of the week after reviewing claims that officials had identified ringleader Mohamed Atta and three other hijackers.

"The 9/11 commission did not learn of any U.S. government knowledge prior to 9/11 of surveillance of Mohamed Atta or of his cell," said Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana. "Had we learned of it, obviously it would've been a major focus of our investigation."

The commission's report on the terrorist attacks, released last year, traced government mistakes that allowed the hijackers to succeed. Among the problems the commission cited was a lack of coordination across intelligence agencies.

Rep. Curt Weldon, a Pennsylvania Republican who serves as vice chairman of the House Armed Services and Homeland Security committees, said a classified military intelligence unit known as "Able Danger" identified the men in 1999.

That's an earlier link to al-Qaida than any previously disclosed intelligence about Atta if the information, which Weldon said came from multiple intelligence sources, is true.

A group of 9/11 widows called the September 11th Advocates issued a statement Wednesday saying they were "horrified" to learn that further possible evidence exists, and they are disappointed the 9/11 Commission report is "incomplete and illusory."

"The revelation of this information demands answers that are forthcoming, clear and concise," the statement said. "The 9/11 attacks could have and should have been prevented."

With the 9/11 commission disbanded for a year under provisions of the legislation that created it, some of the panel's members have said congressional committees should investigate Weldon's assertions.

According to Weldon, Able Danger identified Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi, Khalid al-Mihdar and Nawaf al-Hazmi as members of a cell the unit code-named "Brooklyn" because of some loose connections to New York City.

Weldon said that in September 2000 Able Danger recommended that its information on the hijackers be given to the FBI "so they could bring that cell in and take out the terrorists." However, Weldon said Pentagon lawyers rejected the recommendation because they said Atta and the others were in the country legally, so information on them could not be shared with law enforcement.

Weldon did not provide details on how the intelligence officials identified the future hijackers and determined they might be part of a terrorist cell.

Defense Department documents shown to an Associated Press reporter Tuesday said the Able Danger team was set up in 1999 to identify potential al-Qaida operatives for U.S. Special Operations Command. At some point, information provided to the team by the Army's Information Dominance Center pointed to a possible al-Qaida cell in Brooklyn, the documents said.

However, because of concerns about pursuing information on "U.S. persons" - a legal term that includes U.S. citizens as well as foreigners admitted to the country for permanent residence - Special Operations Command did not provide the Army information to the FBI. It is unclear whether the Army provided the information to anyone else.

The command instead turned its focus to overseas threats.

The documents provided no information on whether the team identified anyone connected to the Sept. 11 attacks on New York City and Washington that killed nearly 3,000 people.

If the team did identify Atta and the others, it's unclear why the information wasn't forwarded. The prohibition against sharing intelligence on "U.S. persons" should not have applied since they were in the country on visas and did not have permanent resident status.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said he was unaware of the intelligence until the latest reports surfaced.

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Associated Press Writer John J. Lumpkin contributed to this report.

Source: Associated Press/AP Online


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; 911hijackers; abledanger; atta; gorelick; hillaryknew; lostdocuments
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To: seemoAR
Why do you want them to testify under oath?

It's called a perjury trap. You get the liars under oath, grill them, then compare their lying testimony to prior statements. Then you question them about their inconsistencies. Once you have the perjury sword over their heads they are more likely to rat out their boss to cut a deal.

181 posted on 08/11/2005 6:58:20 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (The constitution is not in exile, it's in a nice safe deposit box in the Cayman Islands - Lileks)
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To: Just mythoughts

You are correct on all 3 of your thoughts!


182 posted on 08/11/2005 7:07:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Do you really think that would happen? There is way too much CYA in our gooberment.
183 posted on 08/11/2005 7:25:19 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: seemoAR
Do you really think that would happen? There is way too much CYA in our gooberment.

No, I don't expect to see any of these guys aggressively questioned. Bush has given Clinton a free pass for 5 years, so I'd be a fool to think that that will end tomorrow.

184 posted on 08/11/2005 7:35:05 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (The constitution is not in exile, it's in a nice safe deposit box in the Cayman Islands - Lileks)
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To: dila813
I would be willing to bet that Sandy Berger's documents were the ones that address this issue. Now some have conveniently gone missing.

Carolyn

185 posted on 08/11/2005 7:36:30 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: dila813
I will do it for free.

I'll do it for half that.

186 posted on 08/11/2005 8:35:57 AM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: dubyaismypresident

So, why have them put under oath? To me our government has become nothing more than a den of thieves. All or most are crooked. They know where each others skeletons are hidden and have to protect each other. One can not be put on trial because he might have his enemies transgressions exposed to the public. I do not know the answer. This whole mess saddens me.


187 posted on 08/11/2005 8:59:10 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: Southack
"As their bodies were being removed from the wreckage last year, 10 Islamic men knelt nearby and raised and lowered their arms in prayer."

That quote is from an article I found on this subject. My hunch is that potential investors or just bin Laden himself wanted a small demonstration of the seriousness of the terror cell. This demonstration would also serve to bring trust and loyalty amongst the cell members.

It is interesting that this pilot had a Philippines flying license. I think that is where the plan originated for a massive midair collision terrorist plot.

188 posted on 08/11/2005 10:21:25 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Lokibob
Ah lovely! The Clinton mantra. Anytime bad info is coming out, it's all about someone making money on a book, or my favorite defense that I've seen on the threads today......"The timing is suspicious".

It ain't gonna work this time.

189 posted on 08/11/2005 10:24:38 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: dila813

Weldon was just on Fox and really hot.

He was Confused about "Special Forces" and "Special Operations", though. "Special Forces" are "the Green Berets" and their direct support people. "Special Ops" is Special Forces, +SEALS, + the Rangers, + DELTA, +82nd Airborne Division, +160th Aviation + associated intelligence units.


190 posted on 08/11/2005 10:53:39 AM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: eeriegeno
"Sorry Lee, you screwed it up once, I don't think that you should have a second chance!"

Exactly. These unprofessional politicos clowning around on Saturday Night Live and yukking it up during the investigation turned my stomach.

191 posted on 08/11/2005 10:58:53 AM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: dila813
"But this is the first one that shows it was 1999 not 2000!

Does it make a difference? Who was President during the entire year 2000?

Here's a hint: George Bush was sworn in at high noon on January 20th, 2001.

192 posted on 08/11/2005 11:04:23 AM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: dila813
"Typical was coverage in the Los Angeles Times, which chronicled the efforts of a frustrated CIA agent who desperately tried to warn the FBI that Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar had migrated to San Diego after attending an Al Qaeda planning session in Malaysia 20 months before the 9/11 attacks. "

Why has there been so very little curiousity in the press about that Kuala Lumpur meeting? 99% of the public never even heard of the planning session. Is it because Hikmat Shakir, of Saddam's intelligence, was there , and talking about it would distract the press from the "Bush Screwed Up" theme? Hmmm?

193 posted on 08/11/2005 11:10:24 AM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: Jim_Curtis; Dog; Grampa Dave; dead
"As their bodies were being removed from the wreckage last year, 10 Islamic men knelt nearby and raised and lowered their arms in prayer."

Please add that article (source, quotes, etc.) to my new thread (not yet posted) about the year2000 9/11 attack in Florida.

194 posted on 08/11/2005 11:17:40 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: CDHart
"I would be willing to bet that Sandy Berger's documents were the ones that address this issue. Now some have conveniently gone missing."

Unfortunately, neither the Legacy Press, nor the Republican Congress, nor the Republican administration care about what Berger was up to. Elephants can cover up and distract as well as Donkeys......maybe better.

195 posted on 08/11/2005 11:20:27 AM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: eeriegeno

How about the House Committee on Homeland Security, of which Weldon is vice-chair?


196 posted on 08/11/2005 11:32:56 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: cookcounty
"Elephants can cover up and distract as well as Donkeys......maybe better."

Yes, they can. I despair of ever being told the full truth from either side.

Carolyn

197 posted on 08/11/2005 11:52:32 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: eyespysomething
It was strange. Breitweiser wasn't spewing the old talking points as usual. It was kind of lame. She did say those people who didn't forward the Atta information deserve to be fired. She mentioned it twice in the interview. She was nonspecific as to which people as all roads lead to Clinton and his minions. Cavuto didn't press her.

If this was her first appearance, she wouldn't ever be invited back on any other show as it wasn't even interesting. It was dull, just sounded like background noise
198 posted on 08/11/2005 11:58:34 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: cookcounty
Here's a hint: George Bush was sworn in at high noon on January 20th, 2001.

That can't be stressed enough. I have come across quite a few people who are confused by this. They are focusing on 2000 because of the election.

199 posted on 08/11/2005 12:06:13 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: oceanview

I battle the DOJ on a daily basis. What they decide to prosecute and what they decide to go light on frustrates me. Sandy should be locked up for what he did.


200 posted on 08/11/2005 5:13:27 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (Never draw to an inside straight.)
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