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They almost didn't mention Bush.
1 posted on 08/10/2005 6:24:27 PM PDT by aculeus
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Western Siberia is heating up faster than anywhere else in the world

I thought Antarctica was.

31 posted on 08/10/2005 6:50:32 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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They almost didn't mention Bush.

It's his fault, of course!

34 posted on 08/10/2005 6:58:09 PM PDT by CarlEOlsoniii (McCarthy goes after Communists with a shotgun; I go after them with a rifle -Nixon)
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Siberia melting????

What will happen to world turnip consumption now!!!

35 posted on 08/10/2005 7:00:00 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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Researchers who have recently returned from the region found that an area of permafrost spanning a million square kilometres - the size of France and Germany combined - has started to melt for the first time since it formed 11,000 years ago at the end of the last ice age.

The discovery was made by Sergei Kirpotin at Tomsk State University in western Siberia and Judith Marquand at Oxford University and is reported in New Scientist today.

Dr Kirpotin told the magazine the situation was an "ecological landslide that is probably irreversible and is undoubtedly connected to climatic warming". He added that the thaw had probably begun in the past three or four years.

"This is a big deal because you can't put the permafrost back once it's gone. The causal effect is human activity and it will ramp up temperatures even more than our emissions are doing."

So it formed 11,000 years ago at the end of the last ice age, about the same time that the caucasoid Kenniwick Man appeared in North America. hmmmmm, think of that.
And Kerpotin just discovered that this has been happening for 3 or 4 years? Don't people live in Sibe ria that would have noticed right away?
Kerpotin says, "undoubtedly connected to climatic warming". Undoubtedly? "The causal effect is human activity." Undoubtedly!

Perhaps mother earth is only now reversing the damage Kenniwick Man caused.

41 posted on 08/10/2005 7:08:20 PM PDT by Lester Moore (islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
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http://www.heartland.org/archives/environment/apr02/humans.htm

Humans bring end to Ice Age disasters

by S. Fred Singer Ph.D.

During an Internet debate in February [2002], federal climatologist Michael McCracken (not a global warming skeptic) revealed that rising CO2 concentrations may have banished forever the disastrous Ice Ages that have bedeviled the Earth for the past few million years.

Scientists generally credit human activities, especially fossil fuel burning, for the atmospheric build-up of CO2. Plants need CO2, and synthesize their food from it.

So humans appear to be saving the planet not only from disastrously low levels of CO2 (which atmospheric concentrations approached at one point in the past few hundred thousand years), but also from the scourge of Ice Ages that have dominated climate for the most recent few million years.


42 posted on 08/10/2005 7:08:57 PM PDT by nhoward14
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The warming trend seems to be particularly intense in Siberia. The polar ice cap in summer now almost totally withdraws from the north Siberian coast, except in one spot. Soon in summer, it may become a navigable water way.


44 posted on 08/10/2005 7:11:12 PM PDT by Torie
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I just finished reading Michael Crichton's "State of Fear" in which he completely trashes the enviro-whackos and "global warming."

The best scene is when the dumbass ultra-liberal loudmouth Hollyweird actor who "plays the President on TV" is eaten by cannibals.

Too bad they won't be making a movie of this book.

46 posted on 08/10/2005 7:15:07 PM PDT by Alouette (My son joined the IDF to protect Jews, not Ariel Sharon.)
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lol! it's bush's fault ping


49 posted on 08/10/2005 7:17:44 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (Visit the Jefferson Republic for a conservative news portal.)
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I'm sure they'd just hate it if their temperatures got above freezing in the winter. We are supposed to worry about this?


50 posted on 08/10/2005 7:17:50 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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It may indeed be thawing in places but for how long have records been kept ? Could it be something that happens every so often or is it truly a new event ?


59 posted on 08/10/2005 7:37:00 PM PDT by 1066AD
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And I was always told that "they weren't making any more waterfront property."


63 posted on 08/10/2005 7:42:59 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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Western Siberia is heating up faster than anywhere else in the world

News Flash from outside of this world!

Sun: More activity since 1940 than in previous 1150 years, combined
Guess driving those SUV's on the Sun is really screwing it up. Need to pass law to only allow SUV driving on Sun during nighttimes.

Mercury: Unexpected polar ice discovered, along with a surprisingly strong intrinsic magnetic field … for a supposedly “dead” planet
Uh Oh, Global Warming here caused by humans is creating Global Cooling on Mercury! Maybe we should send Mercury a few herds of cows to increase the methane levels.

Venus: 2500% increase in auroral brightness, and substantive global atmospheric changes in less than 30 years
Obviously caused by humans here on Earth, specifically located in No. America.

Earth: Substantial and obvious world-wide weather and geophysical changes
But we knew that- all human caused, obviously. Couldn't possibly be part of a natural cycle.

Mars: “Global Warming,” huge storms, disappearance of polar icecaps
We're not only despoiling our own planet but causing major distruptions on our neighbors also.

Jupiter: Over 200% increase in brightness of surrounding plasma clouds
Probably where all our ozone went when we drove it off by driving all those nasty SUV's. When will we ever learn?

Saturn: Major decrease in equatorial jet stream velocities in only ~20 years, accompanied by surprising surge of X-rays from equator
How much more evidence is needed to prove that all those human X-rays machines, mammograms, CAT scans, MRI's and other such stuff is killing Saturnians?

Uranus: “Really big, big changes” in brightness, increased global cloud activity.
What more can you say about clouds around Ur Anus (other than they're probably methane from farting cows on Earth)?

Neptune: 40% increase in atmospheric brightness.
Probably due to reflections of the sun off all the bald heads of humans lounging around the beach, contrary to all the dire warnings about UV caused cancer.

Pluto: 300% increase in atmospheric pressure, even as Pluto recedes farther from the Sun.
Obviously we're driving even the planets away from us! We're sending it so much stress, its blood pressure is rising. Quick, remove all the salt from Pluto and send blood pressure meds.

As an alternative to "the sky is falling and humans are the cause" theory, maybe it would be good to look at the big picture and realize that maybe... just maybe, the Solar System is cycling through its changes. And being a small, miniscule piece of protoplasm that humanity is in the really big picture, maybe mankind just isn't the cause.

Jeez, these people have supremely big egos... like those who knew that the Earth was the center of the universe and everything revolved around it. And that it was flat, too!

What maroons!

Note: All of the above solar system changes are not fantasy or theory but facts and scientific data, from a variety of highly credible institutions (including NASA itself). This material has been publicly available for nearly a decade in some cases.

65 posted on 08/10/2005 7:45:42 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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This is really tragic.

Where are they going to put the gulags now that Siberia is going temperate?

66 posted on 08/10/2005 7:46:36 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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Kinda makes you wonder what the weather was like when this happened.

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68 posted on 08/10/2005 8:06:39 PM PDT by opbuzz (Right way, wrong way, Marine way)
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If the permafrost were to melt wouldn't the moss in the peatmoss start growing at a faster rate and act as a carbon sink by taking in excess atmospheric carbon dioxide and offsetting any higer temperatures?


73 posted on 08/10/2005 8:47:52 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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Bump for later reading. Make sure we pass a law that says no one is allowed to light any candles in Siberia.


74 posted on 08/10/2005 9:03:25 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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"A vast expanse of western Sibera is undergoing an unprecedented thaw that could dramatically increase the rate of global warming, climate scientists warn today"

Well IF this is true then Kyoto and similar proposals are absurdly, risibly inadequate for the challenge we face anyway.... Greens will now want us all living as agrarian eco-freaks....abandon NOW all of our emissions of "greenhouse gases" and we might have a chance..... I think we need a lot more knowledge before we agree that all of modern society must be promptly dissolved and destroyed, and even that might not be enough to stop the accelerating warming trend, so let's all party until the end of the world..... :^)
75 posted on 08/10/2005 10:37:53 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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Funny it didn't melt 1000 years ago when the earth was 6 degress warmer than it is now.


79 posted on 08/11/2005 9:39:13 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Global RE-WARMING more like it. How did they get a peat bog there if the place was always an ice cube?


82 posted on 08/12/2005 7:19:53 AM PDT by Grig
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