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Evidence of female circumcision surfaces in Iraq
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 8/10/05 | Nicholas Birch

Posted on 08/09/2005 9:42:45 AM PDT by Crackingham

Set on an arid plain southeast of Kirkuk, Hasira looks like a place forsaken by time. Sheep amble past mud-brick houses and the odd sickly palm tree shades children's games. There is no electricity. Yet along with 39 other villages in this region that Iraq's Kurds have named Germian (meaning hot place), Hasira and its people have become noted for presenting the first statistical evidence in Iraq of the existence of female circumcision, or female genital mutilation (FGM), as critics call it.

"We knew Germian was one of the areas most affected by the practice," says Thomas von der Osten-Sacken, director of a German nongovernmental organization called WADI, which has been based in Iraq for more than a decade. Of the 1,554 women and girls over 10 years old interviewed by WADI's local medical team, 907, or more than 60 percent, said they had undergone the operation.

The practice is known to exist throughout the Middle East, particularly in northern Saudi Arabia, southern Jordan, and Iraq. There is also circumstantial evidence to suggest it is present in Syria, western Iran, and southern Turkey.

But while this practice was suspected in the region, there was never any solid proof that the procedure was so prevalent. When WADI presented the results of its survey in Vienna this spring, Mr. Osten-Sacken recalls, various Iraqi groups accused the group of being an agent of the Israelis. Even the Iraqi Kurdish authorities, who have backed efforts to combat FGM since the late 1990s, were rattled.

While urban Kurds are generally laxer in religious practice and more Western-looking than most Iraqis - they're the major opponents of sharia for Iraq's new constitution, for instance - many rural pockets cling to ancient traditions.

"The [Kurdish] Ministry of Human Rights hauled us in for questioning," remembers Assi Frooz Aziz, coordinator of WADI's Germian medical team. "They accused us of publicizing the country's secrets."

But it's not just obstructionism that has held up awareness of the phenomenon. Unlike in parts of Africa, where FGM is practiced relatively openly, in the Middle East it is veiled in secrecy.

"You can't just walk into a village and ask people if they circumcise their daughters or not," says Germian social worker Hero Umar. "These people only talked because we've been bringing them medical help for over a year."

Women in Hasira and the surrounding villages are reluctant to talk about the practice. After long negotiation, Trifa Rashid Abdulkerim agrees to answer some questions. A farmer's wife from the village of Milkhasim, she says she learned circumcision techniques from her neighbor and took over when she stopped. "June is the best time of the year," she says, "and the best age for patients is anywhere between 3 and 8."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: clitoridectomy; femalecircumcision; fgm; genitalmutilation; iraq; islam; muslimwomen; religionofpeace; religionoftolerance; trop
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To: sine_nomine

Thanks for the information.


23 posted on 08/09/2005 10:29:59 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: sine_nomine

Do you know whether the imams and associated ilk have condemned FGM?


24 posted on 08/09/2005 10:31:23 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: Crackingham
What It Is:

Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) is an invasive and painful surgical procedure that is usually performed without anesthetic on girls before puberty. There are about 100 to 140 million women who have been circumcised. An average of about four girls a minute continue to be mutilated. Their clitoris is partially or completely removed. This inhibits or terminates sexual feelings. It has been a social custom in Northern Africa for many centuries.
25 posted on 08/09/2005 10:34:32 AM PDT by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: sine_nomine
This procedure can cause tears when the woman delivers a child. I have only seen one case and the repair after delivery took hours. It's barbaric and I wish that more womens groups would put forth effort to have it stopped.
26 posted on 08/09/2005 10:39:54 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: sine_nomine
FGM is not in the Koran or the other associated writings.

There are references to female genital cutting in the Hadith.

27 posted on 08/09/2005 10:50:11 AM PDT by TDunn
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To: armymarinemom

Circumcision would have no effect on delivery. simply removing the hood from the clitoris will cause nothing to tear.
I think the article is mixing apples with oranges.


28 posted on 08/09/2005 10:54:11 AM PDT by MN_Rightside (If you are born with it you can live with it, why take it off)
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To: sine_nomine
FGM is not a specifically Muslim practice. It is an ancient practice common to much of the Middle East and Africa, where it is practiced by some Muslims, some Christian groups and some pagans. A significant majority of Muslims do not practice it, although those who do would probably say they do so because God wants them to. It can range from quite mild, roughly analogous to male circumcision to extreme, involving the complete removal of all external female genitalia. The methods used are crude and often horrifying to describe.

He made his tribal god, Allah, the one god.

Allah is the Arabic word for God, just as God is in English. It is used by Arab Christians to describe their God. It is cognate to the ancient Hebrew elohim.

There are many excellent reasons to criticize Islam. Their use of the term Allah (the term for "god" in their language) is not one of them.

Neither God nor Allah are names. They are titles, common nouns.

None of the above means that you must believe that they are actually worshipping the same person you are. It is a purely linguistic point.

29 posted on 08/09/2005 10:55:48 AM PDT by Restorer (Liberalism: the auto-immune disease of societies.)
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To: MN_Rightside
Circumcision would have no effect on delivery. simply removing the hood from the clitoris will cause nothing to tear. I think the article is mixing apples with oranges.

Scar tissue doesn't stretch as well as normal tissue. This can cause strictures on the urethra which did not handle the delivery that I witnessed well. The patient also had been Infibulated which caused tearing that caused a heavier repair than usual.

I witnessed this as the patients Nurse.

30 posted on 08/09/2005 11:03:07 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: sine_nomine
One Black woman defended FGM in class.

What was her argument for it?

31 posted on 08/09/2005 11:06:22 AM PDT by reformed_dem
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To: Crackingham
umm...

Why do so many of you react so strongly against female circumcision... but have probably had it done to your male children without much thought and surely no disgust?

I see no difference, they are both mainly done by parents to their children for mostly religious reasons.

I am not endorsing the practice, but just find the responses here funny.
32 posted on 08/09/2005 11:08:39 AM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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To: Crackingham

No comment on this, either?


33 posted on 08/09/2005 11:10:20 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: Cobra64
I wonder how Jane Fonda would react to this practice.

It would depend on who's being mutilated. She wouldn't allow it to be done to herself, but she'd swear it's a beautiful thing, and even perform the mutilation, as long as it wasn't her own.

34 posted on 08/09/2005 11:10:41 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: armymarinemom

Infibulation very likely will result in a difficult delivery, but that is not circumcision.


35 posted on 08/09/2005 11:13:02 AM PDT by MN_Rightside (If you are born with it you can live with it, why take it off)
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To: benjaminjjones
It's akin to chopping off a man's weewee.

One form of female genital cutting called sunna circumcision is very similar to male circumcision. Sunna circumcision removes the prepuce of a girl's clitoris. Male circumcision removes the prepuce of a boy's penis.

Both sunna circumcision of girls and male circumcision of boys are done mainly for social or cultural reasons. Both sunna circumcision and male circumcision remove normal, healthy tissue from the genitals of a child without a valid medical indication.

Sunna circumcision is something THEY do. Male circumcision is something WE do. Thankfully the circumcision rate in the United States is going down. In 2003 only 56% of baby boys were circumcised. In the western states only 31% of baby boys were circumcised.

36 posted on 08/09/2005 11:13:41 AM PDT by TDunn
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To: MN_Rightside
Infibulation very likely will result in a difficult delivery, but that is not circumcision.

True, but some females who are circumcised are also infibulated. This lady also had a small tear on the urethra which requited a consult from urology.

37 posted on 08/09/2005 11:22:25 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Texas_Conservative2

I'm opposed to both male and female circumcision. Female circumcision is generally more brutal than male circumcision. Male forskin is removed with a clean sharp knife. Female genitalia is often hacked apart with a stone. Aside from religious reasons, the main reason for male circumcision is cleanliness. The main reason for female circumcision is to prevent her from enjoying sex. These are probably the reasons why people tend to be more outraged by female circumcision.


38 posted on 08/09/2005 11:23:32 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Restorer
Muhammed took the the local God of Mecca, Hubal the Moon God, and made him the One God of Islam. The people of Mecca called Hubal al-ilah meaning "the god", but every pagan tribe called their local god al-ilah. Muhammed took the Mecca god al-ilah and made him the one true God. In Islam today, they consider Allah to be their God, the one true God. They dont use the word like we do as "God" and "god" with different connotations.

Not so much a critique, just a fact.

39 posted on 08/09/2005 11:33:53 AM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: Crackingham

I have to save this one, as it's standard procedure for Muslims to evade responsiblity for the custom and imply that it's an African thing. Well, this ain't Africa.


40 posted on 08/09/2005 11:37:27 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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