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Army Relieves General of His Command
Army Web Site | Aug 8, 05 | Army Web Page

Posted on 08/09/2005 7:41:36 AM PDT by SLB

Below is the release put on the Army website last night…..
Army Relieves General of His Command
August 8, 2005

On Aug. 8, the Chief of Staff of the Army directed the relief of Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes from his position as Commanding General, United States Army Training and Doctrine Command. The investigation upon which this relief is based is undergoing further review to determine the appropriate final disposition of this matter.

As the investigation into this is continuing, please discourage speculation from your Soldiers. LTG Jones will be the acting commander until LTG Wallace is confirmed as the new TRADOC commander.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: army; byrnes; dod; tradoc; ucmj
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To: Boundless
Unlike the Marine Corps, whose credo is that every Marine is first and foremost a rifleman...

How is that? By having your officers lie about their rifle marksmanship 'skills'? What Marine General was relieved for those lies?

41 posted on 08/09/2005 9:08:45 AM PDT by Yasotay
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To: connectthedots

Like Burt Lancaster said in "Go tell the Spartans," (to the effect) . . . it's booze or p-tang.


42 posted on 08/09/2005 9:14:21 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Yasotay

Wasn't Wallace the V Corps commander in 2003?


43 posted on 08/09/2005 9:14:49 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Proudly confusing editors and readers since 1981!)
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To: SLB

maybe he had computer issues..


44 posted on 08/09/2005 9:15:35 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: tfecw
LTG Wallace sounds familiar as well.

Now I remember. William Wallace (gotta love the name) commanded V Corps in Heidelberg and was the guy LTG Sanchez (1AD) replaced in Iraq after Wallace had handled the invasion. I never worked under him, but I worked near him and saw what he did. Good guy.

45 posted on 08/09/2005 9:20:43 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: SLB

"matters of personal conduct"


46 posted on 08/09/2005 9:21:09 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: GAB-1955

I think so .... Led it into Iraq. The last General to lead a "Corps" into combat. It will be interesting to see his views on UAs.


47 posted on 08/09/2005 9:21:19 AM PDT by Yasotay
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To: sasafras
He probably said he believes there is a God or claimed to be a CHRISTIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually it's opposite. Things can get awkward if you're not Judeo-Christian, especially in officer land.

48 posted on 08/09/2005 9:24:34 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: connectthedots
If it is related to sex outside of marriage, it is not an unforgivable sin.

But it is a violation of the UCMJ.

49 posted on 08/09/2005 9:26:24 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: FreedomPoster

Forgot to ping you to this one. Intereting turn of events. I wonder how the Unit of Action (FCS) program will go under Wallace.


50 posted on 08/09/2005 9:40:10 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: SLB

Thanks. Saw the thread early on, didn't post anything.

Lefties are already commenting on it, obviously hoping it will somehow reflect poorly on Bush and/or the military.


51 posted on 08/09/2005 9:49:57 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (NRA)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I am well aware of that. I was an Army officer for four years after college; ROTC.


52 posted on 08/09/2005 9:52:18 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: SLB

Rummy and Myers have a Pentagon news briefing at 1:15. C-SPAN will carry. No doubt questions will be asked about this issue.

http://www.c-span.org/

DEFENSE POLICY
Pentagon Press Briefing
Def. Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Richard Myers hold a Pentagon press briefing. Despite hopes of reducing U.S. troop strength in Iraq by next spring, Sec. Rumsfeld is expected to respond to questions about the need to raise troop levels in the interim.
TUES., 1:15PM ET, C-SPAN


53 posted on 08/09/2005 9:59:07 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: July 4th

Probably.....


54 posted on 08/09/2005 10:01:57 AM PDT by StrangerInParadise (This tagline has been reported stolen. If you see it, call BR-549..........)
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To: July 4th
What's the point of being rich, famous, or powerful if you can't get any?

I'd hate to work all my life to reach the top just to realize that some jerk running a crack house got more than I.

55 posted on 08/09/2005 10:10:12 AM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is the only thing. Those who glorify losing are unclear on the subject of democrac)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

In April the Pentagon announced that Lt. Gen. William Wallace had been nominated for a four star and assignment as commander of Training and Doctrine Command, to succeed Byrnes.

Lt. Gen. William Wallace - What a great name for a Four-Star General? I have read that he is a hard ass too. We need more General Patton's and less Patent Leather in our military.


56 posted on 08/09/2005 10:10:50 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: SLB
I wonder how the Unit of Action (FCS) program will go under Wallace.

That is the question that I'm interested in ....

57 posted on 08/09/2005 10:11:42 AM PDT by Yasotay
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To: ohioman; SLB

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050809/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/army_general_relieved

Senior General Is Relieved of Duties By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer
10 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - The Army, in a rare disciplinary act against a four-star officer, said Tuesday it relieved Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes of his command after a Pentagon investigation into unspecified "personal conduct."


Byrnes was relieved as commander of U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command on Monday by Army Chief of Staff Gen. Peter Schoomaker, according to a brief statement issued by Army headquarters at the Pentagon.

In that post, Byrnes oversaw all Army training programs and the development of war-fighting guidelines. It operates 33 training schools and centers on 16 Army installations and is headquartered at Fort Monroe, Va. Among the command's responsibilities is to oversee Army recruiting and initial recruit training.

"The investigation upon which this relief is based is undergoing further review to determine the appropriate final disposition of this matter," the Army statement said.

Although disciplinary action against general officers is not uncommon, it is extremely rare for a four-star general to be relieved of command. Byrnes held the position as commander of Training and Doctrine Command since November 2002. Before that he was director of the Army staff at Army headquarters in the Pentagon.

Byrnes' tenure at Training and Doctrine Command was already coming to a close, since his successor had been named — though not yet confirmed by the Senate — and Byrnes had not been nominated for another post. He was expected to retire.

A spokesman for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Bryan Whitman, said the investigation involved "matters of personal conduct," but he would not say more.

Other officials said the matter was investigated by the Defense Department Inspector General and the findings were now being considered by senior Army officials to determine whether further action should be taken.

Among the four-star general or flag officers to have been relieved of command in recent years was Navy Adm. Richard C. Macke, sacked as commander of Pacific Command in 1995 for remarks he made about the case of U.S. Marines accused of raping a 12-year-old Japanese girl, and Gen. Michael Dugan, who was fired as chief of staff of the Air Force in 1990 for comments to reporters about planning for the 1991 Gulf War.

Army officials said they were not immediately able to cite the last time a four-star Army general was relieved of duty.

With the departure of Byrnes, the deputy commander of Training and Doctrine Command, Lt. Gen. Anthony R. Jones, has been designated the acting commander, said Army spokesman Paul Boyce.

The spokesman said it was an Army policy not to release information about specific allegations in an investigation of an Army officer.

In April the Pentagon announced that Lt. Gen. William Wallace had been nominated for four-star rank and assignment as commander of Training and Doctrine Command, to succeed Byrnes, but he has not yet been confirmed by the Senate. There was no public indication at the time that Byrnes was under investigation.


58 posted on 08/09/2005 10:14:10 AM PDT by leadpenny
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Pentagon briefing beginning on C-SPAN.


59 posted on 08/09/2005 10:15:46 AM PDT by leadpenny
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Pentagon briefing beginning. On C-SPAN.

Sorry if this is a double post.


60 posted on 08/09/2005 10:17:58 AM PDT by leadpenny
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