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No More Electric Bills [Solar Panels for Roof Tiles!]
Newsweek ^ | Aug 15, 2005 | Andrew Murr

Posted on 08/08/2005 8:49:57 AM PDT by Quick1

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The biggest thing preventing these from becoming more popular looks like the cost. Pretty cool idea, though! I wouldn't mind building a home with solar panel shingles.

Of course they wouldn't be effective everywhere in the country, but it would certainly be helpful, especially in reducing our dependency on oil.

1 posted on 08/08/2005 8:49:58 AM PDT by Quick1
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i remember when i was growing up Solar power was being talked about for everything
then all of a sudden it dropped and i hardly hear about it
would be nice to have partial solar power on my house that is for sure


2 posted on 08/08/2005 8:52:22 AM PDT by DM1
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These roof tiles feed excess power back to the grid during hot sunny days, when other houses are sucking more power out.

That's pretty cool.

3 posted on 08/08/2005 8:54:05 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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4 posted on 08/08/2005 8:54:21 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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How much of this couple's savings are due to government subsidies?


5 posted on 08/08/2005 8:54:55 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (If there was a problem, yo! I'll solve it!!)
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6 posted on 08/08/2005 8:55:44 AM PDT by Mo1
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Dependance on OIL???? Exactly how do you figure? Power Plants operate on Coal, Nuclear and some on Natural Gas... All of which are domestically produced...

Natural Gas for home heating is also a domestic product.

Other than transportation of the coal to the plant, I'm not sure how much foreign OIL you are saving...

I agree cutting energy consumption is always a good thing, from a cost perspective... but not seeing the foreign oil dependency link.


7 posted on 08/08/2005 8:55:47 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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It's a great idea but until the cost comes down, I doubt we'll see it done on a wide scale.


8 posted on 08/08/2005 8:55:51 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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What they don't tell ya about Solar Cell: they require lots of toxic chemicals to manufacture - they pollute plenty! They are expensive to maintain (need to keep yer roof washed!). Finally they wear out and don't recycle so well. Add that to the expense and they don't any better than the average power plant (and a whole lot worse'n nukes).


9 posted on 08/08/2005 8:56:28 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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I looked into this for my new house. Problem is that you need to be in that house for a minimum of 7 years or so for the solar power equipment to pay for itself.
I may still do it just to be a little bit green but it seems that until the price comes down a lot more, they are still not economical for most people.


10 posted on 08/08/2005 8:57:05 AM PDT by Holicheese (Timmy like windmills!)
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wow they really dont tell you anything like that. I had no idea
ok maybe i can just put a windmill on top of my garage ;)


11 posted on 08/08/2005 8:58:20 AM PDT by DM1
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Up here in the socialist world I infect, people are always trying to adapt solar. What a joke. It rains here every day.

We need to invent mini-turbines to generate hydro power from our gutter downspouts.

12 posted on 08/08/2005 8:59:03 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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Fine print on page 2:
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"Rebates and tax breaks bring the cost down, especially in California, but in many states ZEHs can be prohibitively expensive. California's Clarum Homes announced that it'll build nothing but ZEHs in-state but isn't so sure that's cost-effective in lower-subsidy states like Nevada."

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Subsidies, subsidies, subsidies. Solar cells are still too expensive to stand on their own. I swear, cost-effective solar cells are always just over the horizon like the ol' pot-o-gold.


13 posted on 08/08/2005 8:59:03 AM PDT by sinanju
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It would be a tough sell in Alaska.


14 posted on 08/08/2005 8:59:04 AM PDT by verity (Big Dick Durbin is still a POS)
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Power Plants operate on Coal, Nuclear and some on Natural Gas

... and many of them operate on oil.
15 posted on 08/08/2005 8:59:36 AM PDT by Quick1
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Here in Michigan it could never become a primary source of energy but lots of other solar powered gadgets can be an overall savings.

My yard lights and those of most of my neighbors are solar now. One neighbor heats his garage with solar heated water piped through the floor.


16 posted on 08/08/2005 8:59:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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We're considering installing a PV system here. San Joaquin Valley has more sunshine than it knows what to do with. Our swimming pool hit 91 degrees a couple of weeks ago. Thankfully it's back down to 88 after some cooler nights.

There is much to consider on a PV system. Payoff claims range from 7 years to 20 years. 7 is quoted on some local radio commercials for a cheap install company, and 20 is quoted by some of the "school of hard knocks" folks in alt.solar.photovoltaic. My main concern is to get them installed without being an eyesore.... well, and the high price. :)

Personally, this is one area that I wish government would kick in some research dollars. PV systems are as close to free energy as it gets, once you have covered the high manufacturing costs. I'd like more than anything to tell the A-rabs where to shove their oil.

I've occasionally lurked in alt.solar.photovoltaic for a couple of years now, trying to gather up the courage to do the install myself. Still chicken!


17 posted on 08/08/2005 9:00:34 AM PDT by MarineBrat (We are taxed twice as much by our idleness. -- Benjamin Franklin)
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I've heard of programs where you can actually roll power out of your house into the grid and it rolls your meter back. Then when your utility checks the meter they'll send you a check. I don't know if this ever took off, or how many people could actually produce extra juice, but it was a good idea.


18 posted on 08/08/2005 9:00:35 AM PDT by oldleft
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Solar panels really shine if someone is considering living off-grid in the sunbelt. Compared to the cost of bringing in a power line from your utility, solar panels can be very attractive.


19 posted on 08/08/2005 9:00:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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i remember when i was growing up Solar power was being talked about for everything then all of a sudden it dropped and i hardly hear about it would be nice to have partial solar power on my house that is for sure

That was because the tax cuts for adding solar power systems to homes was eliminated during the 1980s. It really hurt the Solar Industry.

20 posted on 08/08/2005 9:00:55 AM PDT by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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