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If al-Qaida has nukes, why wait to use them?
WorldNetDaily ^ | Aug. 8, 2005 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 08/08/2005 8:19:07 AM PDT by wesley_windam-price

WASHINGTON – Recent al-Qaida attacks using primitive bombs and inflicting relatively small numbers of casualties have persuaded some that Osama bin Laden's terrorist network has been unable to secure weapons of mass destruction or has been unable to smuggle them into the U.S. and other key target countries.

In the wake of a series of reports from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin about the nuclear terrorism threat, some skeptics of al-Qaida's ability to detonate nuclear weapons inside the U.S. most often suggest the problems with maintenance and technical attention.

Others suggest Osama bin Laden may have purchased duds on the black market. Others point out that the triggers on suitcase nukes decay rapidly and have short half lives. The nuclear cores, after a time, fall below the critical mass threshold, say the optimists. Even the shells are subject to contamination over time if not properly maintained, they say.

Unfortunately, finds Paul Williams, author of the upcoming book, "The Al Qaeda Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," there's little point in assessing the possibilities with rose-colored glasses.

"The belief that bin Laden simply purchased these weapons for millions of dollars and stored them within his cave without concern for maintenance has its basis in the erroneous and prejudicial notion that he is a backward Bedouin warrior without knowledge of sophisticated weaponry, rather than a highly trained engineer and one of the most gifted military tacticians in the annals of modern history," he writes.

Williams dismisses suggestions that bin Laden hasn't taken into account some obvious problems with nuclear weapons.

"Bin Laden has been extremely mindful of proper maintenance," he writes. "As soon as he obtained the weapons, he paid an amount estimated from $60 to $100 million for the assistance of nuclear scientists from Russia, China and Pakistan. From 1996 to 2001, bin Laden also kept a score of Spetznaz technicians from the former Soviet Union on his payroll. These technicians had been trained to open and operate the weapons in order to prevent any unauthorized use. To simplify the process of activation, the scientists and technicians came up with a way of hot-wiring the small nukes to the bodies of Muslim agents who long for immediate martyrdom and immediate elevation to the seventh heaven."

Other skeptics ask: "If bin Laden has nukes, why hasn't he used them? Why would he wait? If he has successfully smuggled them into the U.S., why haven't any gone off yet?"

Williams and other G2 Bulletin intelligence sources explain that one of bin Laden's defining characteristics is patience.

"He started plotting the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania when he was in Sudan in 1993," points out Williams. "The attack on the USS Cole was more than two years in the making; and 10 years passed between the first attack on the World Trade Center and the second."

Williams said recruits at al-Qaida training camps are instructed to repeat this throughout the day: "I will be patient until Patience is outworn by patience."

Intelligence analysts and sources disagree on the details of the way bin Laden's "American Hiroshima" plan unfolds. Some G2 Bulletin sources emphasize bin Laden's commitment to re-enacting the 1945 attack on Japan with one nuclear detonation, followed by another days later.

Williams, however, sees a much more devastating, coordinated, all-out, surprise attack coming.

"The next attack, according to al-Qaida defectors and informants, will take place simultaneously at various sites throughout the country," he writes. "Designated targets include New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Miami, Chicago, Washington, D.C., Houston, Las Vegas, and Valdez, Alaska, where the tankers are filled with oil from the Trans-Alaska pipeline. To orchestrate such an incredible event requires not only the shipment of the nukes into the United States but also the establishment of cells, the training of sleeper agents, the selection of sites, and the preparation of the weapons without detection from federal, state or local law enforcement officials. Unlike 9-11, that cost less than $350,000, this event already has cost a king's ransom, and bin Laden will not waste the billions in expenditures, the years of planning and his coveted 'crown jewels' on an attack that is ill-planned, poorly timed and carelessly coordinated."

Other sources interpret some of the same information, based on captured al-Qaida operatives and documents as well as defectors, differently. They project an escalating series of attacks, each followed by blackmail demands upon the U.S. government and the American people.

In any event, both kinds of spectacular nuclear terror attacks require pinpoint coordination and secure communication.

Williams also speculates that the delay in launching attacks with weapons already smuggled inside the U.S. could be due to reports al-Qaida is determined to locate tactical nuclear weapons that were forward-deployed by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. These weapons were reportedly buried at remote sites throughout the country for recovery by Soviet agents.

"There is no doubt that the Soviets stored material in this country," says Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., chairman of the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Military Research. "The question is what and where."

Bin Laden may have a considerable head-start in the search given his predilection toward hiring former Soviet special forces officers whose job it was to know something about these plans.

U.S. officials have reportedly ordered the excavation of several sites believed to be possible depots.

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Russian defector Stanislav Lunev told congressional investigators nuclear suitcases had been buried throughout the U.S., and that he could not pinpoint the locations because Russian military leaders continue to believe a nuclear conflict with the U.S. is still "inevitable." He said the only hope of finding them would be if the Russian government disclosed the locations.

During the same hearings, Belgian officials testified they found three secret depots containing tactical nukes buried by the Soviets in the 1960s.

WND and G2 Bulletin previously reported, based on captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, that the terrorist group has a plan called "American Hiroshima" involving the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.

According to the reports, al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union – including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.

The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."

At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.

At least nine major U.S. cities, including New York and Washington, are prime targets for the al-Qaida nuclear terrorists. Osama bin Laden's preferred dates for attacks include Aug. 6, the anniversary of the Hiroshima nuclear bombing in 1945, Sept. 11 and May 14, the anniversary of the re-creation of the state of Israel in 1948.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedanukes; bin; farah; farahisanidiot; jihadinamerica; laden; moonbat; nuclear; terrorism; wingnut; worldnutdaily
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To: wesley_windam-price

There's no way bin Laden would not have at least shown some photos of the suitcase nukes or given their serial numbers if he had them. He doesn't have them.


21 posted on 08/08/2005 8:31:04 AM PDT by Altair333
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To: steel_resolve

bttt


22 posted on 08/08/2005 8:31:33 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: wesley_windam-price

Is it possible that he might fake out China into thinking there is a nuke on the way from us to them?


23 posted on 08/08/2005 8:32:16 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: wesley_windam-price
At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.

I suspect that if the Chechens had ever had even a single nuke there would be a really large crater in Moscow.

24 posted on 08/08/2005 8:32:34 AM PDT by Restorer (Liberalism: the auto-immune disease of societies.)
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To: Restorer

" suspect that if the Chechens had ever had even a single nuke there would be a really large crater in Moscow."

And knowing the Russians, Chechens would cease to be an ethnic group.


25 posted on 08/08/2005 8:34:28 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: wesley_windam-price

Well, you seem like kind of an ass to me.


26 posted on 08/08/2005 8:34:30 AM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: wesley_windam-price

27 posted on 08/08/2005 8:34:48 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: wesley_windam-price

How much does Farah get for pimping Williams' book?

This is nothing but fearmongering promotion for Williams' book.


28 posted on 08/08/2005 8:34:58 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: wesley_windam-price
WND and G2 Bulletin previously reported, based on captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, that the terrorist group has a plan called "American Hiroshima" involving the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.

I'm sorry, I am usually a huge skeptic of conspiracy theories and the like, but this just seems all too possible to me. Bin Laden and his organization are very well-funded, and anything can be bought. It has been fairly well substantiated that there are quite a few tactical nukes and nuclear material "missing" from Russia and/or its provinces.

As far-fetched as it might sound, as I sit here looking out of my window at one of the largest oil refineries in the country, I can't help but be seriously concerned about this possibility.

How many of us would have believed on September 10, 2001, that 19 hijackers could take over 4 airplanes with boxcutters and, in a well-coordinated attack, drive two of them into the twin towers, one into the Pentagon, and one (allegedly) towards the White House?
29 posted on 08/08/2005 8:35:00 AM PDT by Thrusher (Remember the Mog.)
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To: wesley_windam-price
"If al-Qaida has nukes, why wait to use them?"

Ignorning the "do they have nukes / do they have the means to use them" argument, I've never understood the logic behind this particular response, which gets repeated ad nauseum on FR. I don't know about the nukes issue, but this response never provides any comfort or any meaningful counterpoint.

"If the Japanese inteded to invade Pearl Harbor, they would have done so already."

- Sponken by some brilliant armchair analyst in Nov. 1941.

"If Al Quaeda intended to fly planes into the WTC, they would have done so already.

- Spoken by some brilliant armchair analyst in Aug. 2001.

You get the point.

30 posted on 08/08/2005 8:35:30 AM PDT by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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To: wesley_windam-price

Yes, hijacking planes with boxcutters really took a degree in Quantum Mechanics didn't it pal? Sit down and let the adults talk.


31 posted on 08/08/2005 8:36:31 AM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: wesley_windam-price
if they do have them, they are probably waiting to make sure they do it right because they won't get a second chance
32 posted on 08/08/2005 8:36:32 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Mr. Chambers! Don't get on that ship! The rest of the book, "To Serve Man", it's... it's a cookbook!)
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To: Mr. K
They nuke the U.S. - we should nuke mecca

I'd make the thread even more simple and not specificially anti-Muslim. The US get's nuked and we nuke every mad-dog regime that (A) harbors or supports terrorists or (B) has nuclear weapons that pose any threat to the US. Give the mad dogs a reason to keep the other mad dogs in line. Because once we decide to let nuclear weapons fly, we need to take care of business in one shot.

33 posted on 08/08/2005 8:47:20 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Blue Screen of Death

"If they used a nuke in this country it would tend to unite us again. As it is now, they have about 1/2 of the Senate and House of Representatives working on their side along with every Volvo or Subaru owner in Seattle that has space for a bumper sticker. Why mess with success."

Bingo....! It will take longer than nukes but eventually, if al queda lays low or only bombs here and there...the liberals will eventually turn the country over to them via political correctness. Al Queda must have patience though.



34 posted on 08/08/2005 8:47:25 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: wesley_windam-price

> If al-Qaida has nukes, why wait to use them?

The title is the answer. They wouldn't wait.

With the present rate of attrition of al-Qaida #2s and #3s,
not to mention an entire former al-Qaida-owned country, and
that of an al-Qaida supporter, binnie-L could not risk
having the operation exposed if he waited weeks, much less
months or years.

If he had 'em, he'd use 'em almost immediately (and Iran
wouldn't be so anxious to get into the biz).


35 posted on 08/08/2005 8:47:57 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: wesley_windam-price

Speaking as an ex Pershing and Titan launch officer (I was in both the Army and Air Force at different times.) I'm not really worried about a nuke going off due to all the various correct comments about how hard it is to maintain them and how difficult it would be to move them due to the size.

However, I am very worried about someone taking the radioactive material out of them, packing it around some C-4, getting on top of a skyscraper and setting it off.


36 posted on 08/08/2005 8:48:01 AM PDT by xtargeter
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To: wesley_windam-price

"Bin Laden has been extremely mindful of proper maintenance," he writes. "As soon as he obtained the weapons, he paid an amount estimated from $60 to $100 million for the assistance of nuclear scientists from Russia, China and Pakistan. From 1996 to 2001, bin Laden also kept a score of Spetznaz technicians from the former Soviet Union on his payroll. "

Nutcase or not I have a very hard time believing Bin Laden could or would trust all these people.


37 posted on 08/08/2005 8:48:45 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: wesley_windam-price

Ever notice how these conspiracy loons always manage to incorporate new "News" items into their hallucinations? Did Farah ever include "MS-13" into his hallucination before they became newsworthy a year or so ago?

Ignoring the general ridiculousness of the story, why would AQ be searching for buried Soviet tactical nukes here if they've already smuggled in 20-40 with the help of MS-13 (giggle)...


38 posted on 08/08/2005 8:49:05 AM PDT by mikegi
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To: DEADROCK
Al-Qaida will not use nukes (if they have them) on US soil until they have squeezed all the use out of the American Left.

While I believe al Qaida is enjoying having their work done for them by our MSM and the American Left, your statement is based on what I think is a faulty premise:
If they used a nuke in this country it would tend to unite us again.

How long were "we" united after 9/11? There are many of us, at least half of us, who are still united... but there were apologists and hand-wringers on the MSM within days of the attacks.

The use of nuclear weapons by terrorists in the U.S. may unite the country in pain and fear for a certain amount of time, but those who are truly without courage, those cowards and weaklings who hate this country and blame America first, will not be changed.

Does anyone here really believe the Left wouldn't be out days after a nuclear attack blaming it on Bush for invading Iraq?

Can't you just she Hillary on television, smoking ruins behind her, a tear in her eye, using the opportunity for political gain? And do you think the people that proclaimed her the "smartest woman in the world" wouldn't buy it hook, line and sinker?

Do you imagine that the people who run this country would seriously entertain a nuclear response to a nuclear terrorist attack, no matter how many of us would demand that the entire Middle East be turned into a black smoking plane of glass?
39 posted on 08/08/2005 8:49:50 AM PDT by Thrusher (Remember the Mog.)
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To: wesley_windam-price
Joe Farah is a nutcase, right? Al-Qaida could never deploy nuclear weapons because they are too primitive, right? Primitive Arabs, armed with only boxcutters, cannot hijack planes and crash them into buildings, right? Our Beloved Dear Leader, George Bush, is doing everything he can to secure our borders, right?

There is a term for every one of your questions. That term is "straw man."

40 posted on 08/08/2005 8:50:39 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (John Bolton for White House Press Secretary!)
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