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Bush to Sign Massive Energy Bill Into Law
AP ^ | 8/8/05 | Deb Riechmann

Posted on 08/08/2005 6:27:32 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Supporters say that in the long run, the new law will refocus the nation's energy priorities and promote cleaner and alternative sources of energy. Bush has said he believes the nation must find new ways, besides fossil fuels, to power the economy."

I think this is a lot of PC BS, I think the nation must find and develop more oil sites such as ANWR and the Gulf of Mexico off Florida and other states.

21 posted on 08/08/2005 7:16:29 AM PDT by lstanle
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To: tobyhill

The main problem I have is government giving money to private industry....
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Yes, it is bad. Too much of our money is being dealt out to people who really don't need it or deserve it -- it makes no difference whether its big oil that makes big political contributions, or illegal Mexicans and the Latino community that make big political contributions...they get our tax dollars very much against our will. This adminstration, and the Congress, is BIG on subsidizing industry and business with our tax dollars...it is a matter of history.


22 posted on 08/08/2005 7:22:30 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: new yorker 77

Very good


23 posted on 08/08/2005 7:27:26 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (I urge Roberts to support all sections of the Constitution which uphold abortion)
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just a heads up folks,

The left is calling this the "dirty energy" bill.


IOW it only supports "dirty" forms of energy.


24 posted on 08/08/2005 7:28:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Typical Bush.

More regulation, more pork barrel spending.

Does this bill actually contain things that will SOLVE the problem? Like relaxing environmental regulations on refineries, relaxing environmental regulations on offshore drilling? Relaxing regulations on EPA mandated gasoline formulations?

I didn't think so.


25 posted on 08/08/2005 7:34:33 AM PDT by frgoff
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To: clee1

Lets see. $12 billion for energy. $286 billion for a transportation bill. Seems a little imbalanced to me


26 posted on 08/08/2005 7:38:46 AM PDT by gpapa (Voice of reason from the left coast)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I hate welfare and I hate Daylight Savings Time. I think I hate this bill. Buncha Nanny State socialism.


27 posted on 08/08/2005 8:01:48 AM PDT by TigersEye (BLOAT)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It does not include Bush's desire to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil exploration.

Of course, Bush desires no such thing. He wishes to open up exploration on a postage-stamp-sized parcel of land within the refuge that has been designated for exploration since the time the refuge was created.

28 posted on 08/08/2005 8:18:44 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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Here's what the country needs for an energy policy:

The first two are the most important, but also by far the hardest. We can't replace gasoline without an economical way to turn hydrogen into mechanical energy; we can't use hydrogen without cheap energy to produce it.

29 posted on 08/08/2005 8:41:48 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist; RadioAstronomer
Oops, forgot one:


30 posted on 08/08/2005 8:45:30 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist

**Full court press on hydrogen fusion research
Full court press on hydrogen fuel cell development
Aggressive expansion of domestic oil production
Aggressive construction of nuclear fission plants
Destabilization and replacement of Venezuelan, Syrian, and Iranian governments**

I tend to agree with the above. Even though we do not owe all the modern inventions and energy sources that we now enjoy to government decrees, a government program did invent the atom bomb, so that shows that the state can actually invent things at times.

Tax incentives could be helpful.


31 posted on 08/08/2005 8:50:27 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: mysterio
If the US falls into another recession because of oil, get ready for Rats gaining Senate seats by maybe 4 and Hildabeast in '08. There is a lot of positive news in the economy right now but I believe it's unsustainable for more than another 6-9 months if oil prices stay above $50. Consumers only care that it's costing them 40% more to fill their tanks while looking at $2.35-$2.70 a gallon. Prices are something that people actually see in person where other issues are only reported on. It's called "pocketbook issues".
32 posted on 08/08/2005 9:01:00 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Sam Cree
Even though we do not owe all the modern inventions and energy sources that we now enjoy to government decrees, a government program did invent the atom bomb, so that shows that the state can actually invent things at times.

Concur. Furthermore, I assert that these expenditures would be Constitutional. Our dependence on oil is no longer just an economic issue, but a national security issue.

33 posted on 08/08/2005 9:05:11 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: xrp

I've always felt that there should be a simple test for any legislation. No law shall be passed that exceeds in length (in terms of word count) the US Constitution. That document defines the entire structure and powers of the government; how can any other legislation be sufficiently more complex than that to justify being a hundred time longer?


34 posted on 08/08/2005 9:07:28 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Physicist
Something doesn't become constitutional simply because someone can claim a national security aspect to it. If that were the case, then there would have been no need to enumerate the federal government's powers.

What would be constituional, if we wanted to reduce dependence on foreign oil, or any other foreign product, is to raise tariffs on those products, and let industry take over from there.

35 posted on 08/08/2005 10:53:49 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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