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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 13
Various News Outlets | 8/7/05

Posted on 08/07/2005 5:22:31 PM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aruba; arubancorruption; beth; bethandjug; boycottaruba; carloscharlies; courageousmom; daviejoneslocker; deepak; deepkrap; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kalpooeys; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: justche

I've heard about the *fix her* comment, but not sure what it means. Haven't heard about a photo-phone???


441 posted on 08/08/2005 4:27:05 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: justche
How she can do that without breaking down is beyond me.

She's had almost two and a half months of breaking down. She's probably damn near out of tears and they've finally turned to anger. God bless her!

442 posted on 08/08/2005 4:27:39 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: hershey
There were eyewitness accoutns that the Kalpoe's were hiding in the back seat, only to pop up as the car drove off.

Do you have a link?

443 posted on 08/08/2005 4:27:43 PM PDT by Krodg
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Wild Goose Chase?

Exclusive interview with the man who led Aruban police to landfill

444 posted on 08/08/2005 4:30:02 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Pepper777

Wasn't Colombia mentioned? Check this out:

Colombia is a major source and transit country for women and girls trafficked for the purpose of sexual exploitation.

The Colombian Government estimates that 45,000-50,000 Colombian nationals engage in prostitution overseas; many of them are trafficking victims.

Most traffickers are linked to narcotics trafficking or other criminal organizations; trafficking operations include both Colombians and criminals from countries of destination.

http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2005/46613.htm#colombia


445 posted on 08/08/2005 4:30:04 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: Krodg
"Do you have a link?"

Speaking of links, does anyone know how to listen to "On the Record" live via an internet stream? I've searched high and low, but I'm pretty sure it's possible. Any suggestions most appreciated. Thanks!
446 posted on 08/08/2005 4:30:24 PM PDT by jdm (The answer to the extra credit question on a Columbia U exam is always choice C: "Bush's Fault.")
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To: RGVTx

LOL!


447 posted on 08/08/2005 4:34:07 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: grizzfan

I think you're right. It probably was Colombia. I read the list you linked about Al-Qaeda. I'm thinking they have already been sucessful with many items on the list.


448 posted on 08/08/2005 4:34:59 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Pepper777; justshe

Say, aren't the brothers from Suriname?

"Suriname is a transit and destination country for women and children trafficked for the purpose of sexual exploitation.

"The Government of Suriname does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking; however, it is making significant efforts to do so..."

"...The existence of extensive prostitution—illegal but tolerated—by foreign women, which takes place in urban areas and in isolated camps, suggests that victims are not being identified."

http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm#suriname


449 posted on 08/08/2005 4:39:01 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: Pepper777

Doesn't really matter whether they like us or not. Oil is fungible within its quality gradients. We pay more because we are closer. Venezuala produces heavy crude which is a lower value fuel (higher sulpher content) as opposed to light sweet crude (Nigeria, the United Arab Emirates, Angola and Libya)...which is most easily and least expensively refined into gasoline.


450 posted on 08/08/2005 4:41:31 PM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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To: jdm

I'm only aware of being able to listen to the Fox Radio shows online....but usually TexKat (or another poster or two) end up putting the highlights on as they happen.


451 posted on 08/08/2005 4:41:59 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: cajungirl
Gutsy, classy woman.


Some of our weak-kneed men politicians should take a lesson from her. She is good candidate material. However, she is using her abilities for a far greater purpose.

God Bless her and Jug. Keep them strong and safe.
452 posted on 08/08/2005 4:48:19 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: grizzfan

Yes, the brothers are from Suriname. Insteresting stuff you're finding. I think the Twitty's are still looking into the possibility of a kidnapping. In fact, Jug Twitty mentioned the possibility a few days ago.

The Aruban officials continue to push the theory that Natalee has been murdered. With their track record, it almost makes me think they don't want anyone taking the kidnapping angle seriously for sinister motives. With this case ya never know what to believe.

There's reasons to consider both theories. I keep hoping and praying that somehow Natalee is found alive. It's very possible the reason Juran and the Kalpoes haven't told the real story of what they know, is due to FEAR from others, who could inflict more pain than the judical system.


453 posted on 08/08/2005 4:50:29 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Dark Skies

Interesting info there, Dark Skies. I had no idea there were differences in quality.


454 posted on 08/08/2005 4:55:08 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Pepper777; Andy'smom; NCjim; sissyjane; antceecee; ruoflaw; Mare; cyborg; kcvl; maggief; Fritzy; ...

Nancy Grace coming up yall!!


455 posted on 08/08/2005 4:58:47 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Thanks for the heads up, TexKat. I almost starting watching BOR. EEEKKKKK~~!! :)


456 posted on 08/08/2005 5:02:21 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Pepper777

You know how it is...dig into a crevice (like Aruba) and stumble into an entirely new world.


457 posted on 08/08/2005 5:03:40 PM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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To: hershey
I don't disagree with you, the descriptions of Natalee make it very unlikely, if not impossible, that she would run off with a teenage boy because he said she should be a model. But the idea that she may have been transported for the benefit of some other person or reason than the pleasure of Joran and the brothers is not one I can call completely bogus. Either way, I also agree that the Joran and the Kalpoe brothers are in the middle of it all and there should be no reason, regardless of speculation, that the focus shifts.
458 posted on 08/08/2005 5:05:26 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: TexKat

"HarryTho so far has worked through the various scenarios we've all seen on Fox News and other MSM, and is focusing now on the possibility of a 'slave trade' scenario."

That is the latest of my innumerable theories.

Are these people reading our posts?


459 posted on 08/08/2005 5:06:19 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: Dark Skies

That crevice in Aruba, seems to be similar to the pits of you know where. I found some interesting info I need to post on the Shango thread. Are you still interested?


460 posted on 08/08/2005 5:10:06 PM PDT by Pepper777
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