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Warning of riots if lynching investigated
The Australian ^ | 8/8/05 | Abraham Rabinovich

Posted on 08/07/2005 3:34:25 PM PDT by dervish

ISRAELI Arab leaders have called on the Government to refrain from investigating the lynching by Arabs of an Israeli soldier who shot dead four Arabs, including two women, on a bus last Thursday.

Knesset member Mohammed Barakei warned that protests could erupt throughout the Arab sector if an investigation is carried out into the soldier's killing.

A security official in the Israeli Arab town of Shfaram, where the shootings occurred, said the soldier, Eden Natan Zada, had been beaten to death by the mob after he had been subdued by police and handcuffed.

But Mr Barakei denied this, and said the crowd had attacked Zada to prevent him from continuing his shooting rampage.

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Northern police commander Dan Ronnen said security forces would examine all aspects of the incident, including the lynching.

He said more than a dozen of his officers had been injured by stones and bottles as the crowd struggled to get at the soldier and that petrol had been poured over some of the police, although it was not ignited.

"Our people have identified criminal elements who took advantage of the situation to attack policemen," he said. "We have no option but to investigate."

Israel rushed more than 1000 police reinforcements to the Galilee hills following the killings for fear widespread rioting would break out in the area, where most of Israel's 1 million Arabs live. In rioting that erupted in the area five years ago following the outbreak of the Palestinian intifada in the West Bank and Gaza, 13 Israeli Arabs were shot dead by Israeli forces, leaving resentments that are still unhealed.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: israel; kach; lynching; natanzada
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21 posted on 08/07/2005 5:08:53 PM PDT by SJackson (America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
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To: SauronOfMordor

"Do we have any independent (non-Muslim) data on what happened? Do we know with certainty that this guy went nuts and started randomly shooting,"

Yes, we do. The terrorist killed 4 and critcally injured many others.

Independent source is the people on the bus, bystanders and police officers.

Good thing they stopped him or it could have been worse.


22 posted on 08/07/2005 5:16:51 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: tet68

I cant verify that they tieds his hands, but if they did it was the right thing to do so he could not kill more innocent people.


23 posted on 08/07/2005 5:20:05 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Do we know with certainty that this guy went nuts and started randomly shooting, as opposed to recognising a known terrorist on the bus?

Maybe he recognised the real killers of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman.

24 posted on 08/07/2005 5:20:51 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (You're not drunk if you can still lie on the ground without holding onto something)
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To: TAquinas
It was my impression that the people on the bus were Israeli arabs, traveling in a predominantly muslim area.

Which is why I had the question "Do we have any independent (non-Muslim) data on what happened? Do we know with certainty that this guy went nuts and started randomly shooting,"

Again: do we have eyewitness reports from non-Muslim sources as to what actually happened?

25 posted on 08/07/2005 5:23:27 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: dervish
Rioting arabs? Wow there is something you dont see everyday.

Whats next? Bears Sh##ting in the woods?
26 posted on 08/07/2005 5:23:40 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: dervish

Shades of Rodney King!!


27 posted on 08/07/2005 5:24:25 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: TAquinas
Are you stupid? the story says A security official in the Israeli Arab town of Shfaram, where the shootings occurred, said the soldier, Eden Natan Zada, had been beaten to death by the mob after he had been subdued by police and handcuffed.

No, seriously, are you stupid? did you not read the article?

28 posted on 08/07/2005 5:38:07 PM PDT by zahal724 (I own a lumber company? Want some wood?)
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To: dervish

Push them into the sea or the desert, as the case may bge..


29 posted on 08/07/2005 5:41:38 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: TAquinas

Does that preclude an investigation? I think not.


30 posted on 08/07/2005 5:43:11 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Deetes
It is beyond my understanding that anyone would continue to negotiate with these people or cut them any slack at all. We're playing right into their hands, IMO. And all this talk lately of us pulling out of Iraq is simply encouraging them. Ted Kennedy and his cohorts have a lot to answer for, IMO.

Carolyn

31 posted on 08/07/2005 5:45:26 PM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Hands bound


32 posted on 08/07/2005 5:47:42 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: dervish

I wonder just where the "Arab" evolved from.


33 posted on 08/07/2005 5:48:04 PM PDT by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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To: zahal724

We were not present. But according to witnesses, the people had to subdue him to stop him from killing more people. I think they did the right thing.


34 posted on 08/07/2005 5:49:22 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: dervish

What the Arabs see it Israel surrendering on all fronts. Why shouldn't they threaten violence if there is an investigation? It may work.


35 posted on 08/07/2005 5:50:45 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: DB
If the mob killed the perp while he was killing then good for the mob. Otherwise they're just barbarians.

They did. He was on the bus in their town when he opened fire killing 4 Arabs and wounding many more. He was trying to get another clip in his gun so he could kill more Arabs. A passenger on the bus got the gun away from him and the people outside thought the passenger was the perp and started to beat him. Then they found out it was the Israeli and the crowd beat him to death.

They didn't need to lynch him. He was already dead. The Israeli was a member of the IDF and quit or got booted out because he was freaking out over the coming pull out, so he took it out on the Israeli Arabs.

36 posted on 08/07/2005 5:51:17 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (veni vedi Visa - I came, I saw, I shopped!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

I would have to agree with you, sheik yerbouty.

It does not preclude an investigation.


37 posted on 08/07/2005 5:52:06 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: CDHart

What does your post have to do with a group is Israeli citizens saving the government the cost of a trial?


38 posted on 08/07/2005 5:52:12 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (You're not drunk if you can still lie on the ground without holding onto something)
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To: CDHart
Rice and Bush have a lot to answer for too
39 posted on 08/07/2005 5:53:00 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: NRA2BFree

Your story is not true.

He was alive and in custody.

See #32


40 posted on 08/07/2005 5:54:31 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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