Hiroshima, in the words of Enola Gay's bombardier - No regrets for Col. Tom Ferebee, hometown hero

Houston Chronicle ^ | 8/5/05 | JAMES L. MARTIN

[Incorrigible]

Enola Gay
by OMD

Enola Gay...
You should have stayed at home yesterday
Ah ha words can't describe...
The feeling and the way you lied

These games you play...
They're gonna end it more than tears someday
Ah ha Enola Gay...
It shouldn't ever have to end this way

It's 8:15...
And that's the time that it's always been
We got your message on the radio,
conditions normal and you're coming home

Enola Gay...
Is mother proud of little boy today?
Ah ha this kiss you give...
It's never ever gonna fade away

Enola Gay...
It shouldn't ever have to end this way
Ah ha Enola Gay...
It shouldn't fade in our dreams away

It's 8:15...
And that's the time that it's always been
We got your message on the radio,
conditions normal and you're coming home

Enola Gay...
Is mother proud of little boy today?
Ah ha this kiss you give...
It's never ever gonna fade away

 

Cool song but I don't agree with it's sentiments.

My dad was in the Navy in the Pacific during WWII and chances are good I might not be here if it wasn't for the atomic bomb.

 

[Firefox1]

Hey Japan, when you spend most of the thirties raping and ravaging the world, someday someone might just show up with a bigger stick. When the bully gets knocked in the head, why should we feel sorry for him? The lesson is, don't pick a fight and you won't get punched in the face

[barkeep]

My uncle was on an LST bound for Japan when Hiroshima happened. He had just finished going from landing to complettion on Okinawa, a campaign that cost his unit over 100% casualties, "red boot" replacements from Hawaii arriving all the time. They were called red boot because the red volcanic dirt of Hawaii they had been training in stood out from Okinawan soil.

There were virtually no POWs taken in Okinawa. End of campaign, hundreds, possibly thousands of Japanese troops leapt off the ocean cliffs rather than surrender, and I know of no American POWs retieved. Every man out of Okinawa knew what to expect as a level of resistance in a homeland invasion. Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved more Japanese lives than American. Men, women and children from 8 to 80 literally were supplied with sticks, bricks and pitchforks with which to defend the Emporer.

As an aside, uncle has tried for some years to contact anyone caught in the storm his vessel survived. Anyone with personal knowledge, please reply. Uncle is 79 and his mates are dwindling all the time.

[Marauder]

I worked with a guy who was a POW in a Jap camp. He lost the sight of one eye from malnutrition and suffered unspeakably under those evil swine.

He was very outspoken and full of fun, always had something funny to say, usually at the top of his voice. Another coworker turned to me and complained about the things the former POW said, and I told him that after what that man went through for us, I was happy as hell to let him say anything he wanted to.

[Retain Mike]

Casualty avoidance is often cited for dropping the atomic bombs. People extrapolate from 48,000 American and 230,000 Japanese losses at Okinawa to a half million American and millions of Japanese casualties for the mainland invasion. The estimate could have been vastly understated because Japan, at 374,000 mountainous square miles, mathematically enables over 500 defensive redoubts comparable to that general Ushijima used to inflict most Okinawa losses. The War Faction adopted the motto of “100 million Japanese deaths” in planning the final mainland battles. Besides kamikazes, redeployed Kwantung divisions, and bamboo spears for civilians, the allies faced biological warfare. Occupation searchers uncovered large stockpiles of viruses, spirochetes, and fungus spores throughout rural Japan. One delivery plan encouraged Japanese to infect themselves and then surrender.



I have not seen mentioned the critical role kokaitai played in surrender. Any prominent Japanese lived out this spiritual combination of Emperor, people, land, ancestral spirits, government, and Shinto religion. Hirohito decided in January 1944 to appoint a Peace Faction, but he and his advisors debated twenty months through continuous defeats and 1.3 million Japanese deaths before the bombs removed the “final battles” argument, allowing the War Faction to relent, Hirohito to assume his new roll, and no one to lose face. They remained within the fabric of Japanese of all eras who had sacrificed themselves for Emperor and Empire. Kokaitai is too compelling, oppressive and fulfilling for Westerners to imagine the agony of conscience these men confronted juxtaposed to meetings in a burning Tokyo.

[billnaz]

Colonel Ferebee is a great American, and he has no reason to feel any remorse. He was instrumental in ending a war. If there had been an invasion of Japan many American lives would have been lost.

All the men who served on the Enola Gay and Bock's Car are heroes in every sense of the word.

[Coleus]

US bishops mark anniversary of atomic bombings, condemn ‘total war’

[tessalu]

Anyone who lived through WW2 knows that the bomb was not dropped too soon.

[SuziQ]

The Discovery Channel had two really good programs about the bombs tonight. Actually, one is about the Emperor and the suggestion that he played a more active role in the prosecution of the military part of the war than was previously thought. He approved of the treatment of the Chinese in the late 30's invasion of that country, and of the plans to bomb Pearl Harbor.

Neither show was negative about America's decision to drop the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Both shows were produced by the BBC!

[SuziQ]

We're planning to see The Great Raid next week. Was is good?

[SuziQ]

The dramatization on the Discovery Channel showed the General in charge of the Army still planning to fight to the last man even after the bomb was dropped on Nagasaki. He had NO plans to surrender. He made comments that he had three million men ready to fight the Americans when they invaded. In fact, on the day that the surrender was announced, that General committed seppuku. In his suicide note, he called his death his apology for his mistakes.

SSQ's Daddy always said that he was alive only because of the bombs. He was slated to be in the invasion force in the Fall of 1945.

[Mia T]

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