Posted on 08/05/2005 6:59:14 PM PDT by Originalist
Station won't fire host after apology SAN FRANCISCO -- A talk show host for the San Francisco Giants' longtime flagship radio station was suspended for a week without pay Friday for racial remarks he made about the team's Latino players -- though a high-ranking station executive said he would not be fired.
“ I never heard anything like that here. I heard it in the South and in some other cities, but not here. ” — Manager Felipe Alou
On the air late Wednesday after the Giants lost 3-2 to the Colorado Rockies, Larry Krueger of KNBR went off about the struggling club and its "brain-dead Caribbean hitters hacking at slop nightly."
Later, he said, "You have a manager in Felipe [Alou] whose mind has turned to Cream of Wheat."
Krueger apologized, but that meant little to the Giants.
"I haven't heard anything like that since John Rocker," Venezuelan shortstop Omar Vizquel said Friday, referring to the former Atlanta Braves pitcher's remarks in a 1999 interview with Sports Illustrated in which he bashed gays, minorities and foreigners. "I think an apology is not going to be enough for that type of comment. I've said things I've regretted, too, and I wish I could take them back. I would give a guy a second chance if I knew him better, but I don't know him."
The 70-year-old Alou, shocked and saddened Friday to hear about the comments in a city as diverse as San Francisco, called a meeting with all of the Latin players before the Giants opened a three-game series against the Houston Astros.
Alou vowed to make everyone aware in his native Dominican Republic -- taking it as high as the country's president, Leonel Fernandez, who attended a statue tribute for Hall of Famer Juan Marichal here in May.
"It really made me sad to know that 40, almost 50 years later I could hear comments like that," said Alou, who faced racism as a black Dominican minor-leaguer in the South nearly five decades ago. "Especially in San Francisco ... I never heard anything like that here. I heard it in the South and in some other cities, but not here. A man like me and the Latin guys out there, we have to be aware now that it's not over yet. It is coming back.
"I don't have harsh feelings. I'm sad to hear that. I'm really shocked to hear that in San Francisco, California -- I can't believe that. I've been coming to this city for 50 years, when I was either managing or playing for the other team. I cannot believe that here I could read or hear something like that. It's not my problem. It's some other people's problem to address," he said.
Tony Salvadore, KNBR's senior vice president, said the station went back and reviewed the transcript. KNBR owns approximately 1.5 percent of the team.
"Larry was wrong," Salvadore said. "It was clearly inappropriate."
Krueger's self-described rant also criticized Giants management.
"I just cannot watch this brand of baseball any longer," Krueger said. "A truly awful, pathetic, old team that only promises to be worse two years from now. It's just awful. It really is bad to watch. Brain-dead Caribbean hitters hacking at slop nightly."
Said Salvadore: "The Caribbean ballplayer thing was clearly out of line," though he noted Krueger will not lose his job.
Krueger's verbal bashing of the Giants' players and Alou was still available in an audio download from KNBR's Web site Friday, but the word "Caribbean" had been edited out.
"It was offensive and we took it out," Salvadore said.
There was no apology for the attack on Alou.
The Cream of Wheat box -- and old advertisements for the product -- have traditionally shown a black man named Rastus wearing a chef's hat and serving a steaming bowl of the hot cereal to a group of white children.
"I think that Cream of Wheat thing was taken out of context," Salvadore said.
Krueger showed up at the ballpark Friday and said he apologized on the air Thursday and would do the same to Alou and the players if that's what they wanted.
"If they would like to hear it, I would definitely like to," Krueger said, declining to say anything more.
But the damage was already done.
Giants general manager Brian Sabean called it "deplorable" and said everyone is accountable for their actions and knowing the right way to phrase things.
"I'm swallowing hard," Sabean said. "I'm really trying to fathom how in this day in age it can even be said. This is not something we're going to take lightly. It's a very emotional subject. It's a blow below the belt. I know it deeply affected Felipe. I'm disappointed and disheartened we have to react to it. We stand by our manager and stand by his comments and feelings on the subject."
Many of the seven Latin players were discussing the issue in the clubhouse.
"It's a free country," Venezuelan third baseman Edgardo Alfonzo said. "You can say anything you want. True baseball fans don't say stuff like that. What can you do?"
Luis Torres, a native of Colombia who works for the club, received about 25 calls Friday from citizens concerned with the comments.
Can anyone see how this could be mistaken for a racist remark? More people "saddened" by PC nonsense.
Can anyone see how this could be mistaken for a racist remark?
Well, what are the batting averages of the "Caribbean hitters"?
Later, he said, "You have a manager in Felipe [Alou] whose mind has turned to Cream of Wheat."
So was he right?
I get your point, but racist is still way over the top. The south is a mix of many races, as is the rest of the country. Elitest maybe, racist no.
Based on the Giants record, looks that way.
I can't see how it could be construed other than racist.
Maybe it's just me.
It sucks to tell the truth these days.
So differentiating people based on ethnic group is racist? He basically said that these players are Caribbean, and that they were swinging at alot of bad pitches. Both are true. Racist? Are you sure?
They do swing at anything thrown at them. So Go back and play in .....Carribea!
Ah..Ah..Ah.....just because it's TRUE, doesn't mean you CAN say it......
I agree with you on picking on the Caribbean players. But what about the Cream of Wheat remark? Did you read what the reasoning was for declaring that to be racist?
You'd think that the "brain-dead" part would bother them more, huh? Everybody's a victim of racism these days.
That's OK.
As a Southern male, I'm used to the prejudice against my kind.
As a Giants fan....yes. He was. :-(
Was he?
I understand, I'm a Texan.
He didn't "describe" one ethnic or racial group, he descibed one group of hitters who happened to be of the same ethnic group. You are reading it like a victim, not a realist.
Could be worse. You could be watching my Twins. It doesn't matter the color of your skin or the heritage of your forefathers - if your cap has a TC on it, you swing at slop.
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