Posted on 08/05/2005 1:03:26 PM PDT by Rebelbase
(the return ,after long absence, of norbert, courtesy of the local library. missed FR immensly, hope to have another machine soon.
I hat it, too.
Yesh I do.
Okay, I've seen a shotshell once; CCI, but it was for a .22 Magnum, do they make it for .22 long?
I said kill all the *gophers* not *golfers* you idiot!
RE: "I've always wondered why a pistol firing that type of ammunition isn't considered a short barreled shotgun."
For the same reason that pistols that fire "rifle" cartridges (e.g. Thompson Encore, Remington XP100, etc.) aren't considered "short rifles".
Basically, the rule is that the firearm is considered to be whatever it was manufactured to be and can't be changed and it doesn't depend on the ammo. For instance a machine gun that has been converted to semi-auto only is still considered a machine gun. (there is an odd offshoot of this that concerns AP ammo, but that wasn't really your question).
It's kind of a strange rule, but it's the only feasable means that the BATFE has for administering these issues.
Gee, I'll have to break out my Beeman 660, that gun is a lot of fun to shoot. A fellow I know used one to drive away raccoons from his house, he treed a bunch of them and pooped off a about a hundred hits while they scrambled around the tree. Raccoons are smart, I'm sure they go to someone else's garbage now.
Or use a silencer (actually I know that all they do is suppress the noise, but I will use the colloquial term rather than the technically correct suppressor). Not real clear to me why more folks don't like the idea of reducing gun noise. The ATFE and the rest of the gun grabbers get their knickers in a twist, but more widespread use of suppressors would help IMHO.
He should get a dog...Hillary is on recess.
rifled barrel makes all he difference. years ago someone (i think ithaca) actually made a smoothbore .22lr specifically designed for these. guy cut it off at 16" guess what happened? got nailed by the batf. it was legal as a rifle, but the fact that it was a smoothbore, designed for shooting shot, made it a shotgun according to batf.
Well, that's a fundamental error. I should know, because I did the same thing. I had two or three squirrels who raided by bird feeders. So, I put out some deer corn for the squirrels on the railing of my deck. It drew their attention from the bird feeders -- as long as the corn lasted. But of course, the corn vanishes in an hour or two. Replenishing it often attracted more squirrels. And very soon I had, not two or three, but eight or ten, squirrels divebombing my birdseed feeders by launching themselves from the eaves.
I wrote about this episode, and the lesson it teaches, on the NCFR board. My munificence toward the squirrels worked just exactly like the welfare system. Once you start the program, the demand for whatever you're giving away increases more rapidly than your ability (or willingness) to increase the supply.
Or, to put it more succinctly, no good deed goes unpunished.
In 1934 a bill was passed levying a tax of $200 (4 times the price of a Thompson submachine gun at the time.) on future sales of machine guns. Short-barreled rifles and shotguns, cane guns and silencers were also thrown into the bill, almost as an afterthought. The BATF was set up, and one of its functions today is to collect such a tax. So much of the controversy dealing with Title II weapons is not that they are illegal, but that a tax will be levied on their ownership. Owning one which is not properly registered and taxed is a violation of federal tax code (tax evasion) a felony punishable by large fines and up to ten years in prison.
Good Hunting... from Varmint Al
Proof that the I-75 corridor South of Pennsylvania is becoming infested with Yankeees.(I used the extra "e" just to piss 'em off)
This is clearly the statement of an individual who has never looked through a telescope, a sight on a gun or binoculars.
Does this rat shot do damage to the rifle?
Maybe she thinks people shoot with their eyes closed.
"...This isn't Brooklyn..."
That's really the problem
Too many "two-twelves" (212 - NY area code) new to Raleigh.
They're not in tune with the American culture.
Why should they be?
They're not American.
IT does however have a great effect on varmints as long as you are close enough. But I once put 6 rounds into a oppossum and it didn't hardly even blink. So the next round was a hollow point. It sure took notice then.
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