King David's Palace Is Found, Archaeologist Says

New York Times ^ | August 5, 2005 | STEVEN ERLANGER

[NoCmpromiz]

Who in the world is Harold Camping?

President and General Manager of this:
Family Radio

It should be noted that some time ago, like maybe over 10 years, this guy wrote a book predicting that Christ would return in September of that year. Of course, since that didn't happen, he has been trying to explain why he was right ever since. Seems that the older he gets the nuttier he gets...

(Opinions expressed are my own....)

[Siena Dreaming]

OK, now that you've had to explain who Harold Camping is after accusing me of listening too much to him...why would you associate me with this guy?

He's as far from my belief as you can get.

[Ma3lst0rm]

Good news. Historically the palestinians have no claim to the area but that hasn't stopped them from making claims that they have no right to make.

Here is an excerpt from http://www.masada2000.org/

" Israel first became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam! Seven hundred and twenty-six years later in 586 B.C.E. these first ancient Jews in the Land of Israel [Judea] were overrun and Israel's First Jewish Temple (on Jerusalem's Old City Temple Mount) was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar, king of ancient Babylon. Many of the Jews were killed or expelled; however many were allowed to remain. These Jews along with their progeny and other Jews who would resettle over the next 500 years, rebuilt the Nation of Israel and also a Second Temple in Jerusalem upon the Temple Mount. Thus the claim that Jews suddenly appeared fifty years ago right after the Holocaust and drove out the Arabs is preposterous!

Ancient Jerusalem

Then in 70 C.E. (nearly 2000 years ago), it was the Roman Empire's turn to march through ancient Israel and destroy the SECOND Jewish Temple, slaughtering or driving out much of its Jewish population. Many Jews left on their own because conditions for life were made unbearable in many respects... yet thousands upon thousands stayed and rebelled on for centuries in order to once again rebuild a Jewish Nation in this Holy Land.

Over 3250 years, various Peoples, Religions and Empires marched through Jerusalem, Israel's ancient capital. The region was successively ruled by the Hebrews [Jews], Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Maccabeans, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Egyptians, the Crusaders, Mamelukes, the Turks (who indifferently governed the backward, neglected territory from the 16th century until the British drove them out during World War I) and then once again by the Jews in 1948. None bothered, nor were they in the least bit inclined, to build a Nation of their own... EXCEPT the Jews!

It must be noted that in 636 C.E., when the Arabs marauders came to the land and uprooted even more of its Jews, they did not form any Arab nation there... and certainly not a "Palestinian" nation. They were simply "Arabs" who, as did others before them, moved into a geo-political area called "Palestine!" And remember this one fact... it was not the Jews who "usurped" (a favorite word from the Arab propagandists) the land from the Arabs. If anything, it was the Arabs in 636 C.E. who overran and stole it from the Jews! "

[Revelation 5]

From: Gita Levi
To: Gita Levy
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:28 AM
Subject: Gush Katif


B"H

Dear Friends,
Upon returning from Kfar Maimon, i am aware of the immediate necessity to get the message out! Please watch and share with friends, colleagues, etc.
Shabbat Shalom,
Gita
PLEASE OPEN LINK:

http://www.machonmeir.org.il/leumi/sakin_balev_english_300.wmv

[Ciexyz]

Archaeology is proving that the pages of the Bible are true and worthy of belief; the writers were inspired by the Lord G-d to record these truths for our edification, teaching and righteousness.

[blasater1960]

For a very excellent historical on Israel and the Jewish people go to www.deprogramprogram.com and listen to Sha'i ben Tekoa. I consider it the University of DPP. I am an avid listener not a spammer.

[Zionist Conspirator]

So, I guess my position should be based on the Bible and not on any fundamental rights Israelis have today? Tell me, I'm confused.

You sure are--just like everyone else who thinks that "fundamental rights" exist independently of the Biblical G-d. So where do the come from? That mythical "social contract" that Locke and Jefferson and all those "18th century" rationalists were so fond of pretending existed (even though they knew it didn't)?

I'm afraid that the notion of rights divorced from ultimate meaning is not at all "self-evident," whatever the Declaration of Independence says.

[golch1979]

That's your opinion. I've heard all the first truths arguments from Hadley Arkes on down. Whether you think these fundamental rights descend from a higher power or not is not really relevant. From your perspective it has to come from a Biblical G-d. From my perspective it comes with the inherent dignity of being a human being. Once you prescribe to the notion that these fundamental rights come from a Biblical perspective then you have nuts like muslims laying claim to their notion of rights from their god. That doesn't work. We're right and they're not. I don't want to have a war of religions. As wrong as their religion is they can still rely on it if it's a contest. We are human beings, the dignity in that is enough.

[Zionist Conspirator]

That's your opinion. I've heard all the first truths arguments from Hadley Arkes on down. Whether you think these fundamental rights descend from a higher power or not is not really relevant. From your perspective it has to come from a Biblical G-d. From my perspective it comes with the inherent dignity of being a human being. Once you prescribe to the notion that these fundamental rights come from a Biblical perspective then you have nuts like muslims laying claim to their notion of rights from their god. That doesn't work. We're right and they're not. I don't want to have a war of religions. As wrong as their religion is they can still rely on it if it's a contest. We are human beings, the dignity in that is enough.

Translation: human rights and dignity don't really exist, so we create a subjective social construct that pretends they do. That being the case, you really have no argument against any dictator or ideology that denies these, since he can create a different social construct.

The idea that the existence of more than one religion makes it impossible to determine which one of them is the authentic one is a cop out. Besides, everyone acknowledges that the Jewish religion "used to be" true. It's only when people start arguing about what "replaced" it that we run into trouble.

[golch1979]

You miss the point as do all who say that human dignity comes from G-d. Human dignity and rights do exist. They are innate as a function of our existence. These are UNIVERSAL for everyone. It is a nice little fiction to say that they come from G-d. It validates one's religion. Once religion gets involved then, depending on the religion, the dignity and rights can become relative. It's fine and well when we have religions that bestow rights and dignities that are fair and true, but what about religions that don't?

Isn't religion the subjective social construct? Can't religions, just like a dictator, create different standards based on the religious leaders' whims?

[Reagan80]

Excellent! Thank you...

Reagan80

[night reader]

There was a prediction that the Ark would be found in August 2005.

Ark of the Covenant or Ark of the Deluge?

[mad_as_he$$]

Covenant, I believe next week.

[freepertoo]

Nope. Real, up front and personal.

[SunkenCiv]

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