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To: Integrityrocks
What a twisted view of the most basic of Christ's teachings.

The giveaway is the lie in the first paragraph about Mother Teresa saying that suffering "gives you leverage over God."

She would never have said such a blasphemous thing.

She taught, of course, that suffering unites us more closely to Christ because he suffered for us.

11 posted on 08/05/2005 8:24:25 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
She taught, of course, that suffering unites us more closely to Christ because he suffered for us.

With respect, I'd like to ask a question. It has been many years since I studied the Catechism and I left the Church long ago. But I remember things like, "Offer it up for the souls in purgatory" - that suffering had its purposes. I don't recall that I was to endure suffering to be closer to Christ, but that may just be my memory.

Perhaps post-Vatican II Catholics don't 'offer up' their suffering anymore? I think suffering can give you character, can make you more aware of the plight of others, and if you believe in the purgatory thing, it can help there. But I just don't recall that suffering is supposed to get me closer to Christ. For those who believe, Christ's sacrifice was so overwhelming, how do you possibly get close to that? And if He died for our sins, why do I have to recreate that suffering in myself? I thought the idea was to contemplate Christ's sacrifice and to be sorry for one's imperfections, trying not to repeat them.

I'm just trying to learn the Church's current stand on suffering. It may be worthwhile to learn to suffer gracefully that which is unavoidable, but it can't be that Christians are supposed to go looking for it or impose it on others in order to get closer to Christ.

84 posted on 08/05/2005 11:02:35 PM PDT by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: wideawake

"Though He were a son, yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered."


87 posted on 08/05/2005 11:08:04 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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