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Approval of Bush's Handling of Iraq Drops
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| By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer
Posted on 08/05/2005 2:34:50 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: t2buckeye
Oddly, the other night I was watching O'Reilly and he had two military experts on.
Both said things were not going well - ie. we were not losing but we were not winning either. A serious concern was that only 2 of the 90 trained Iraqis battalions could actually fight on behalf of the Iraqis and another issue seemed to be the lack of service personnel seemed to be another issue. Widespread infrastructure problems also were serious. Both believed we needed to stay firm and win but both believed this was going to be a long term issue - 7 years out.
Its too bad there is a lower support for this action right now. A lot of people don't see the long term gain that can come out of this.
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posted on
08/05/2005 7:21:38 AM PDT
by
hawkaw
To: thoughtomator
What were the pole numbers for Clinton's handling of Haiti? Bosnia? Somalia?
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posted on
08/05/2005 7:27:29 AM PDT
by
Holicheese
(Timmy like windmills!)
To: F14 Pilot
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posted on
08/05/2005 7:45:41 AM PDT
by
Rise of South Park Republicans
(The Founding Fathers wanted disagreements as long as we all agree America kicks as* - Eric Cartman)
To: F14 Pilot
AP-Ipsos poll
Ah yes, the same poll that had Kerry winning in a "landslide" oh yeah, this is really believable. Funny how their "polls" always match their edtiorals.
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posted on
08/05/2005 8:40:03 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
To: Recon Dad
Your are right on the mark! I've been saying this for some time. I am a strong supporter of the President, but my faith is beginning to wane as I see his time running out without accomplishing the important things that need to be done
You really, really need to read the link below. If you really think the above, you are getting your "news" from all the wrong places. Your viewpoint expressed here could not be more incorrect.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1439221/posts
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posted on
08/05/2005 8:50:15 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
To: Psalm 73
Actually no. Read link below. You need to think of Syria as the chute of a slaughter house. We want to draw the Terrorists out of hiding into a killing zone. Both the Political Right and Left are way too hung up on Vietnam analogies. Iraq is nothing like Vietnam at all.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1439221/posts
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posted on
08/05/2005 8:53:22 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
To: F14 Pilot
Wonder if 40% of the sample even voted for W, doubtful.
Pray for W and Our Troops
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posted on
08/05/2005 8:55:57 AM PDT
by
bray
(Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
To: hawkaw
"Both said things were not going well - ie. we were not losing but we were not winning either."
Well then they are morons who know nothing about Counter Insurgency and were brought on to spew what Bill Pompous O'moron wanted them to say. Read the link below.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1439221/posts
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posted on
08/05/2005 8:56:20 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
To: t2buckeye
EVERY loss of life in Iraq is a tragedy; you must admit that compared to past wars (VIetnam, WWII, etc) the numbers are vastly fewer.
Not only that. The numbers are deliberately inflated. They include about 800 non combat deaths. Funny how the Dinasour Media sheds all these crocodile tears for Military accident victims in Iraq, but not for those who die in training here at home. Also interesting how the scream about the deaths in Iraq but never seem to express the same concern for those in Afghanistan.
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posted on
08/05/2005 8:59:28 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
To: MNJohnnie
"Iraq is nothing like Vietnam at all."
I did not say that Iraq WAS anything like Vietnam - what I said was we should not allow the terrorists safe haven a short hop over the Syrian border.
I believe that would be a function of air interdiction.
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posted on
08/05/2005 9:57:51 AM PDT
by
Psalm 73
("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
To: hawkaw
Though what these people say may be correct...many of the so called "military experts" are Monday morning quarterbacks that were COMPLETELY wrong in the expectations for Afghanistan and the initial action in Iraq. In fact, NONE of them thought that elections could have been held as soon as they were.
My only point is that 14 of the 17 (I think it is) provinces are in pretty good shape while the terrorists and insurgents continue to cause problems and fight hard in the area where they were the strongest before the war. While the news media covers (rightfully so) that part of the war effort, they do not cover those parts of the country that are getting their local governement up and running, etc. By not showing both successes and setbacks, we get a skewed picture ...and the enemy is heartened.
To: MNJohnnie
Vietnam and Iraq are alike in ONE way....the media coverage
To: t2buckeye
Vietnam and Iraq are alike in ONE way....the media coverage
Oh yeah, you nailed it there. I am going to incorporate it into my spiel. "Well, in one sense Iraq and Vietnam are similar. The media coverage is the same."
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posted on
08/05/2005 10:41:55 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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