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Evan Bayh: Democrats Come Up Short on National Security Issue
NewsMax/AP ^ | 8/4/05 | Limbacher

Posted on 08/04/2005 11:22:47 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Democratic Sen. Evan Bayh, a possible presidential candidate in 2008, said Thursday that his party lacks credibility on national security and needs to convince Americans that Democrats are willing to use force when necessary.

Until the party can persuade voters, it will be unable to move the debate to issues that work for Democrats, Bayh said in an interview with The Associated Press.

"Unless the American people know that we will be good stewards of the nation's security, they're unlikely to trust us with anything else," said the two-term Indiana senator. "That's a very important threshold we have to get over."

Bayh said there are legitimate grounds to criticize President Bush's approach to fighting terrorism, but until Democrats establish more credibility on the issue, many voters won't listen.

"Many Americans wonder if we're willing to use force to defend the country even under the most compelling of circumstances," Bayh said. "The majority of Democrats would answer that question that, yes, there is a right place and a right time. We don't get to have that discussion because many people don't think we have the backbone."

Bayh has spent three days in Iowa, the first presidential caucus state, attending party fundraisers and meeting privately with activists who play a crucial role in Democratic politics.

Bayh said he would make a decision on a presidential bid after next year's midterm elections, basing it, in part, on whether he has a realistic chance of winning the nomination.

"Is this a sensible thing to do?" he said. "I've never been a big person for fool's errands. I think you have to conclude you have some prospect of being successful."

Bayh said his electoral success in heavily Republican Indiana and moderate views are a model for Democrats to end their recent electoral failures. Summing up those failures are polls that show voters overwhelmingly trusting Republicans on national security, he said.

"We've got a few voices out there who would be a little bit more on the fringe," Bayh said. "Unfortunately, too often they define the entire party."


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1 posted on 08/04/2005 11:22:47 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"We've got a few voices out there who would be a little bit more on the fringe," Bayh said. "Unfortunately, too often they define the entire party."

Sounds like a slap at Howard Dean...

2 posted on 08/04/2005 11:25:15 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
IMO, if the Democraps would just dump the gay contingent and jettison the 'gay marriage' issue, they'd get half of the voters they lost, back.

In the last Ohio presidential election, Ohio was nearly 50/50 between President Bush and that doofus sKerry. However, defense of marriage referendum passed like 86/14. So that means many, many Democraps voted for sKerry but not for gay rights.

If Bayh would ever recommends this, the howling would run him out of the party.

3 posted on 08/04/2005 11:29:23 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

yeah, they do, evan. and you ain't the one to bring 'em back.


4 posted on 08/04/2005 11:32:36 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

He's running to be Hillary's VP.


5 posted on 08/04/2005 11:36:48 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (When can we stop pretending that the Left doesn't by and large hate America?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Gee whiz, is Evan a really smart guy? Duh.


6 posted on 08/04/2005 11:40:42 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Many Americans wonder if we're willing to use force to defend the country even under the most compelling of circumstances," Bayh said.

Let's see.

The democRATs fozzled* around in Korea until Eisenhower got in office and took it seriously.

They fozzled* around in Viernam, dragging it out into a quagmire that was nearly impossible to win.

They fozzled* around over Grenada, Panama, Haiti, Somalia, Khobar towers, the African embassies, the U.S. Cole and many others, and they wonder why Americans might not trust them with the country's security?

Wonder why!

*Fozzle - "to blither about aimlessly."

7 posted on 08/04/2005 11:42:54 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Bayh should know. He voted against Condi's confirmation.


8 posted on 08/04/2005 11:49:30 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: Always Right

". . .many people don't think we have the backbone."

"Many people" are right. If the Dems would get off those issues that most Americans find repulsive (gay marriage, gay "civil rights," abortion-on-demand, etc.) and get onto the issue most Americans think is importion (national security and defense, maybe "many people" would start to listen.


9 posted on 08/04/2005 11:57:22 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: aynrandfreak

Wrong......sorry, but no way they run two sitting senators again as a ticket..Vilsack is positioning himself for the VP slot..as it VA gov Warner..BTW, I long maintained that the Clintons PUSHED Clark into the 2004 primary season as an audition for the VP slot for 2008, and he failed, miserably..


10 posted on 08/04/2005 12:40:17 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050

We'll know who is serious about running starting next Thursday with the opening day of the Iowa State Fair. Be prepared to see film of the wannabes in front of cute 4-H kids and their animals with the ever-present hay bales in the background. It is a tradition.


11 posted on 08/04/2005 12:43:59 PM PDT by babaloo
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To: ken5050

I didn't say he'd necessarily get it, but Bayh would like it, and would help Hillary seem more centrist. As to Clark, he's crazy. We'll see if you're right.


12 posted on 08/04/2005 12:52:42 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (When can we stop pretending that the Left doesn't by and large hate America?)
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To: Always Right

Uh, a "few voices"? Total bunko. They had Micheal "Hate America" Moore sitting next to Jimmy Carter at their convention for crying out loud.


13 posted on 08/04/2005 12:54:06 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: aynrandfreak
I don't think he's running for VP because just about every Dem realizes that they can NOT run two senators on the ticket..What Bayh is doing, IMHO is keeping himself viable, as are a multitude of others..for the top spot under two coniditions: 2. She runs..but she bombs in the early going...
14 posted on 08/04/2005 12:55:40 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: aynrandfreak

He's going to win the primary as a presidential candidate, not VP.


15 posted on 08/04/2005 1:06:57 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

I admire your confidence. For the sake of the country, I hope you're right. Even though I'd still prefer most of the GOP field to him, at least I wouldn't feel that the future of our country is as much at stake as if Hillary gets the nomination.


16 posted on 08/04/2005 1:20:09 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (When can we stop pretending that the Left doesn't by and large hate America?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I'm wondering if Hillary Clinton running is just a head fake and the real goal is to get this guy in the Oval Office.
17 posted on 08/04/2005 1:45:18 PM PDT by July20
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