THE MMP - FOXY POLITICIANS & THE ILLEGAL ALIENS
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Posted on 08/04/2005 11:22:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
FARMINGVILLE, N.Y. (AP) - This middle-class Long Island community an hour from New York City and 2,000 miles from the Mexican border has become an unlikely flashpoint in the national debate over illegal immigration, with Hispanics beaten, harassed and evicted in recent weeks.
For more than a decade, immigrants from Mexico or Central America have been drawn to Long Island by the prospect of jobs. Many stand on street corners in Farmingville, waiting for contractors, landscapers and others to offer them a day's work at about $10 an hour. Then at night they go back to their illegally overcrowded single-family homes.
The immigrants, many of whom are believed to have entered the country illegally, have been source of tension among longtime residents since at least the late 1990s, but things have gotten worse this summer - so bad that the head of the Mexican Consulate in New York City said Farmingville was "clearly a red zone after the Arizona border" in the abuse of immigrants.
In late June, two men were charged with a hate crime for allegedly berating a Mexican woman and her husband as the couple backed their van out of a parking lot. Within weeks, two more suspects were arrested and accused of yelling racial epithets and throwing a beer bottle at a Hispanic day laborer.
That same day, four people demonstrating at a 7-Eleven in support of day laborers were arrested when they surrounded an anti-immigration protester's car and refused to let him out.
Police are also investigating an attack in nearby Patchogue on a 61-year-old Ecuadorean man. He was beaten by three men who supposedly asked if he had a green card.
The tension was ratcheted up in mid-June, when officials in the town of Brookhaven, which includes Farmingville, and Suffolk County police began evicting men from overcrowded houses, citing health and safety violations. Dozens of people were jammed into the tiny one-family homes.
So far, at least six houses have been shut by authorities - including three last Friday - leaving more than 100 men homeless, advocates said.
Advocates claimed the immigrants have been thrown into the streets without warning. One advocate called it "ethnic cleansing."
"Many local officials have punted, saying this is a federal issue and we can't do anything about it. Well, there are some things you can do," Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy responded. "Crack down on those contractors, crack down on illegal housing and create a better relationship with immigration officials."
Levy complained that it is the Mexican government's "failed policies, both economically and otherwise, that have been pushing millions of his residents over the border for a better life in America."
Arturo Sarukhan, head of the Mexican Consulate in New York City, agreed that Mexico needs to solve its economic problems so that its citizens do not leave for a better life in America. But he said officials on Long Island must realize that the day laborers are here to stay and "there is a need to work together."
"At the end of the day, they may or may not like it, but it is the reality," he said.
A spokeswoman for the Town of Brookhaven estimated there are 150 houses, each with dozens of suspected illegal workers, in Farmingville, though some landlords have pre-emptively evicted some tenants for fear of trouble with the law.
"If they're going to throw anybody out of an apartment, they have to give them time," said Carlos Tenorio, a 26-year-old day laborer from Mexico City who has been in Farmingville for about nine months. "These people are not the cause of the problem."
Farmingville saw immigration-related violence a few years ago. In 2000, two Mexican men were beaten by two locals who promised them work. On the Fourth of July 2003, a Mexican family barely escaped with their lives after teens set their house ablaze by shooting fireworks through a window. But tensions appeared to ease after three of the assailants were sent to prison - two of them for 25 years to life.
Residents are largely cheering the crackdown on immigrants.
"I think they are doing a terrific job," said Terry Sherwood, who complained that residents in the jammed houses often drink late into the night and urinate and defecate on lawns and backyards. "I don't care who they are, what color they are. I don't care where they come from. Why should people have to live this way?"
Lisa Marino placed a Mexican flag on her front lawn in solidarity with the workers but also applauded efforts by officials to curb illegal housing.
"There's a lack of assimilation," she said of the workers. "You don't leave garbage out, you don't whistle at neighbors. They need to understand that, but by keeping them marginalized, they don't learn that."
Nadia Marin-Molina, an advocate for the day laborers, understands the concerns expressed by neighbors, but insisted "it's a two-way street."
"Some of these same people who are complaining are the people who benefit from the work these guys do," she said. "Because every house has landscaping done, or has to have some job done on their roof, or some painting done."
"Where do you find your day laborers?"
Newspaper adds, temp services. Of course you might have better luck if you tried to pay them above minimum wage.
"Well I don't have any friends that I would insult by offering to hire them to do day labor type work. How much do you pay your friends to clean out rental properties where tenants left old broken furniture, appliances tires, and to help you replace doors, fixtures and appliances?
I would be insulted if one of my "friends" offered to pay me to do that type work."
Now you're an elitist too.
LOL
Please post a link to that website because if you employ people as you say you should be familiar with I-9. I would be extremely interested in seeing that website.
These mutts wanted tax-payer assisted housing when they got tossed out of their illegal dwellings...It's time to evict them out of the country. We have to pay for their education, healthcare, welfare etc. I will no longer vote for any politician who does not face the illegal immigration issue head-on.
Let me look for the website, I don't have it saved on my work computer, but I do have it cached in my pings, and I'll post it sometime towards evening. Work is calling.
Okay....not sure where you live, but unless you're looking for retail or restaurant service work where you can probably walk in and ask for an application, you have to look in the paper under ads. Plenty of high schoolers do this, in fact when I did have a retail store and was hiring clerks...people always called me from ads I placed. Now the pay was lousy compared to service work...but like I said, alot of kids and adults don't want to get dirty.
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| Mexican immigrant Jose Hernandez, who was evicted when Brookhaven officials raided the overcrowded house in which he was living, brandishes a Mexican flag during a candlelight vigil and march, Thursday in Farmingville, N.Y. The suburban Long Island community is polarized over the recent influx of immigrants, mostly Mexicans like Hernandez, who flock there seeking seasonal work but lack adequate housing. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)
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Here are two links from the same site:
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/ssnv.htm#verify
This one is the answer to the question, what should I do if the numbers don't match:
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1418&p_created=1116873411&p_sid=acOkFfMh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPTksMTEzJnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9Mi4xMTMmcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1
Any employer that uses the failure of the information to match SSA records to take inappropriate adverse action against a worker may violate State or Federal law.
The information you receive from Social Security Number Verification Service does not make any statement regarding a worker's immigration status.
You know, I really didn't believe you at first but it certainly looks like they are trying to put the fear of employers to release people who don't have the proper documentation.
However, it is against the law and by firing someone who's number did not match, I think in the real world would not get them in trouble as long as it's done properly. According to the law we all must have a verifiable ss or green card to work in the US and if a person doesn't then the employer is breaking the law by hiring them and keeping them if their documentation is false. I'm sure you're familiar with I-9's.
Let's be honest, we know perfectly well that the INS is not coming over to pick them up if their numbers come back as false. Even the soc sec admin is stating you should notify them, and wait to see if they can get you the ahem...correct numer, before you do anything.
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