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To: Fester Chugabrew
Testing, direct observation, repeatability, exploration, and the like must also be involved.

All 4 of these things are done with evolutionary biology, as I have already explained. You just refuse to see it or are unable to understand it. The scientific community, well-trained in these matters, is well aware of the implications and necessity of evidence and draws their conclusions accordingly.

You have already admitted that your religious views trump any scientific explanation in your mind, so I am still inclined to ask about this, as I am curious as to how your draw your conclusions. I'd be satisfied (for now) with an honest attempt at an answer to any of the following, rephrased as direct questions where necessary:


166 posted on 08/06/2005 2:05:57 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: Quark2005
All 4 of these things are done with evolutionary biology, as I have already explained. You just refuse to see it or are unable to understand it.

I have no where stated that evolutionary biology in no way engages in "direct observation, repeatability, exploration, and the like." But I am well aware that the results in no way merit the conclusion that all biological life is derivitive of a common ancestor. When science does what it is supposed to do, it's results will coincide with the basic phenomenological events cited in biblical texts.

You have already admitted that your religious views trump any scientific explanation in your mind . . .

The biblical texts and my religious views are not the same thing in essence. They are not coterminous. My religious views are to be subject to the texts as a whole, and the Author of those texts. It is the texts and their Author that make clear there would be no science without the creative act and ongoing involvement of the Creator. As far as I can tell, you neither recognize those texts as being authored by the Creator, nor are you willing to submit your own reason to either the texts or their Author.

The very first sentence of the biblical texts, for you, must be subject to your experience and reason first, and from there you judge what kind of literature you think it might be. I am not given to do such a thing. As long as you are, it is best that you be left to your own authority. Besides, it makes you sound more wise and educated.

The Bible's original audience had no conception of modern science . . .

The original audience for the biblical texts is all people throughout all generations. Your assertion that it was "dumbed down" for an unscientific bunch of nimrods is simplistic on the face of it. One would think, if the Creator of all things visible and invible desired to communicate with the crown of His creation, He would do so in human language, and in a manner that spells out both convincingly and plainly where we came from, where we are going, and why.

167 posted on 08/06/2005 5:35:07 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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