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1 posted on 08/03/2005 10:49:43 PM PDT by manny613
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blah blah... we did it because it had to be done, the end


2 posted on 08/03/2005 10:53:41 PM PDT by GeronL
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I believe that in the larger picture it saved even more lives. Russia had just entered the war against Japan and was eager for more than Manchuria.

In addition, the immediate postwar era, and the entire Cold War, was less costly in human lives and suffering because the bomb was used.


3 posted on 08/03/2005 10:54:33 PM PDT by D-fendr
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Guilty? Not me. I want to nuke a couple of countries now.


5 posted on 08/03/2005 10:56:56 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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this opinion puts it very succinctly :

http://www.coloradogold.com/donscolumn.htm
7 posted on 08/03/2005 10:58:24 PM PDT by injin
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All the historical revisionists and distortionists rely upon widespread ignorance of the actual conditions and facts in 1937-45. Japan, Germany, and Italy had combined to kill tens of millions of civilians while waging the most colossal aggressive war in human history. Final death totals for WWII are estimated up to 50 million.

The US leaders knew from the island campaign leading up to Okinawa that the Japanese military had inculcated a fanatical drive to fight to the death, and there were almost no surrenders anywhere - on Okinawa virtually all of the more than 100,000 Japanese troops fought to the death, killing around 21,000 US troops in the process.

To invade just ONE of the four main islands of Japan would likely have cost 10-20 times as many US lives as Okinawa (200,000 - 400,000), not to mention Japanese military and civilian casualties in the MILLIONS. Even strictly from the standpoint of the Japanese, the atomic bombings did them the enormous favor of forcing the war's rapid end with vastly fewer casualties. Such comparisons sound ghastly, but all the people who rave against the casualties at Hiroshima and Nagasaki need to understand that the alternative was a MINIMUM of 1-2 million Japanese fatalities.

Of course, US leaders were deciding to end the war as rapidly as possible with the (entirely rational and ethical) aim of saving hundreds of thousands of US lives, but even strictly from the Japanese standpoint it was a moral imperative to free the country of the stranglehold that a depraved military junta had on the government, and this was the ONLY way to do it.


11 posted on 08/03/2005 11:01:31 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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When you have an enemy, whose intent is to destroy you, then all is fair in love and war. Our enemies sure live by the sword, and we are fools not to answer in kind.

Due to liberal hand wringing, propaganda, as well as our bought and paid for politicians, the movers and shakers seem to have forgotten this valuable truism.


12 posted on 08/03/2005 11:01:35 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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No feelings of guilt here. Like my father always said, "The Japanese started it (Pearl Harbor) and we ended it (Hiroshima & Nagasaki)."


18 posted on 08/03/2005 11:15:21 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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Why feel guilty about Hiroshima?

So who, besides the America-hating liberal left, feels guilty about it?

21 posted on 08/03/2005 11:18:37 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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Would they feel better if we just firebombed them the old fashioned way?


22 posted on 08/03/2005 11:18:49 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
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Hiroshima? No... Christian Nagasaki? Yes.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/Printable.asp?ID=3993


26 posted on 08/03/2005 11:21:00 PM PDT by RedTail
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another significant date I'm afraid 8-6-1945 60 years anniversary...everyone be vigilant
28 posted on 08/03/2005 11:22:40 PM PDT by ldish (God save the USA)
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I think of all the people those nukes saved the life of.

We could have lost 200k soldiers and they would have lost probably 400k before giving up with conventional weapons at that time.

I am sorry they tried to conquer a part of the world that wasn't theirs and that they attacked us.
That was a big series of mistakes.
32 posted on 08/03/2005 11:30:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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I regret we had only two bombs and that we didn't have them sooner. Sure would have come in handy at Tarawa and Iwo Jima. And we could have dropped one right on the emperor too.


33 posted on 08/03/2005 11:32:35 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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No guilt.

Nuking with cobalt salting in minor amounts on islamic holy sites will eventually also be necessary as well.

Good triumphs eventually, even when it hits lots of speed bumps.


41 posted on 08/03/2005 11:42:46 PM PDT by LAURENTIJ
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Why feel guilty about Hiroshima?

Without Pearl Harbor, there would have never been a Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

I've never felt the slightest tinge of guilt over it.

43 posted on 08/03/2005 11:44:49 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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Blah Blah Blah. I don't feel guilty one damned bit. Dropping those bombs saved two of my uncles' lives; not to mention coutless hundreds of thousands of other American and Japanese lives, by negating Operation Downfall, the full scale invasion of Japan.

They started it and we finished it. END OF STORY!!!


52 posted on 08/04/2005 12:08:13 AM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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I don't feel guilty. I had nothing to do with it.


53 posted on 08/04/2005 12:10:16 AM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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Every Japanese I've spoken to about Hiroshima has said the same thing -- that it was necessary and fortunate for Japan that the US dropped the bomb, because that was preferable to being invaded by the Soviet Union.

Apparrently, liberals do not speak Japanese.

54 posted on 08/04/2005 12:10:21 AM PDT by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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I want to thank everyone here who supports the U.S. use of atomic bombs on Japan. I also want to thank everyone who fought or had a family member who fought in the Pacific theater.

My father was a teenager in the Philippines under Japanese occupation. I was born in Honolulu.

I have absolutely no guilt, whatsoever, about the U.S. using nukes on Japan.

56 posted on 08/04/2005 12:14:51 AM PDT by Daaave ("I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit...it's the only way to be sure.")
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Jean-Francois Revel: "Clearly, a civilisation that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."
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Comments coming with the above picture:

"A lot has changed since we ended World War II. Not all of it has been for the better.

Once again we are in a war we didn't start but must finish. Only now, we have more champions for the Axis powers at home than we did during World War II. And that's not the worst of it.

Now, instead of trying to decisively defeat the enemy by (gasp) killing them, we're supposed to kowtow to all manner of politically-correct insanity so we don't offend the very enemy we should be packing away in six-feet-deep holes!

Meanwhile, the enemy gets to saw off the heads of our people while shrieking "Allah Akbar" and the Leftist media says nary a word...but if one of our boys plugs one of those same terrorists playing 'possum, it's the end of the world as we know it.

So, on this 63rd anniversary of Pearl Harbor, I thank God once again that the Leftists trying to run our nation into the soil today had no place in polite society back in 1941. If they had, we'd all have been bowing to Hirohito decades ago. Let's not forget that."

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57 posted on 08/04/2005 12:22:28 AM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (Not all Muslims are Terrorists; but all Terrorists are Muslim)
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