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Oh, that's rich. Yeah, I didn't do extensive research to come up with that number. I stumbled across the information in looking to find out what happened in North Carolina in 1864. I accepted the information that's on the monument at the site. At least there's some debate as to the number of dead and the 11,700 number is easy to find.

I hope that you are not using a variant of Wlat Truth, i.e., the number of times something appears in Google is an indication of how true it is. If you are, try looking up "Lincoln and "tyrant" sometime.

Yes, the 11,700 number can be easily found, probably primarily because it is posted on the monument. The average person tends to accept such things as gospel without question. The 11,700 number was an 1871 US government estimate not based on records. If the 11,700 figure were correct, Salisbury's death rate would be higher than those of Andersonville and Elmira added together. Strange that I hadn't heard that before.

As opposed, of course, to a U-Boat on display in Galveston and the existence of the book in which Watie claims to have read about it.

If you will remember, I posted to both of you that I'd been on the submarine in Seawolf Park in Galveston and that is a US submarine.

I enjoy your posts, but your repeated messages about the submarine are getting old. You have more to contribute than that.

Now, if you can prove that Sherman's Army entered North Carolina in 1864, you might have something to complain about.

Not my issue. The Union army was in Cherokee County in Western NC in 1864, but they may not have been under Sherman's command at that point in time.

Not my issue. The Union army was in Cherokee County in Western NC in 1864, but they may not have been under Sherman's command at that point in time.

Sherman might have been in nominal command since he was the supreme western commander, but in 1864 he and his attention was centered in Georgia. But if Cherokee county North Carolina is the area in question, I have to say that the story of federal cavalry moving through is plausible. They were in Polk and Bradley counties in Tennessee just across the border on garrison duty. There was an important railroad passing through the area so there was always Feds in the area. Gatewood's rebel bushwhackers were operating in the North Georgia mountains nearby and there were many other criminal bands in the mountains of nominal allegiance to either side. Given that atrocities were common in that part of the world in 1864 plus the fact that 19th century Indians often suffered abuse even without a Civil War going on, I can see how that the incident that Stand Watie describes on this thread could happen.