"They simply could not have all come from Ukraine and Belarus--otherwise there wouldn't be anyone left in Ukraine or Belarus."
You are right - mortality in some area of Ukraine did reach 100% - Also WWII losses by Poland and Ukraine exceeded actual Russian losses by a factor of 5 .
Read and weep , Kremlin propagandists.
http://www.infoukes.com/history/ww2/page-29.html
http://www.faminegenocide.com/resources/famine_map.html
"Read and weep , Kremlin propagandists. "
http://www.infoukes.com/history/ww2/page-29.html
http://www.faminegenocide.com/resources/famine_map.html
And don't you call me Kremlin propagandist--you find nowhere in my posts any attempts to defend Stalin or any other Kremlin bastard who deserve nothing condemnation. I have no sympathy for Putin either for his attempts to partially rehabilitate Stalin legacy.
Ukrainian Famine was a horrendous crime against humanity, genocide--no question about it. However this famine was a part of USSR wide collectivization that wiped out also millions of Russian, Kazakh and other peasants, although Ukrainians had the highest number of dead proportionately to the population. Also decade before Ukrainian famine, there was a Volga famine that wiped at least 5 millions in Central and Southern Russia and about a million in Ukraine. The only thing that saved Volga Region from complete depopulation was the realization by Lenin that Bolsheviks are unable to grow the food (only take it away from peasantry and rob the rich), so they need these peasants to produce the harvest. So the nascent Soviet Regime back then asked "imperialist" powers to help the starving peasantry of Volga and "imperialists" (United States, Sweden, Britain, etc) saved Volga region from complete depopulation but not until after at least 5 million of Russian Peasants and about 1 million of Ukrainian peasants died.
Stalin engineered famine of 1932-1933 was the result that in Ukraine the resistance to collectivization was higher than in Russia, and he decided to use a weapon of hunger to subdue Ukrainian peasantry. Russian free peasantry was mostly eliminated or subdued during Civil war decade earlier so there were fewer will to resist. The grain taken away from Ukrainian peasants went on export outside of USSR--not to Russia. Stalin is the world worst mass-murderer--that's I know perfectly well.
As for Soviet military losses in WWII, Ukraine in fact suffered proportionately higher losses of population than Russia, but it does not negate the fact that millions of Russians (residents of RSFRS) also perished in WWII. Also the statistics of WWII losses is still not accurate, so the losses of Russia itself maybe much higher than the one quoted.