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Trailer builder, driver sued by survivors of fatal smuggling attempt (Texas)
Victoria Advocate ^ | August 3, 2005 | GREG BOWEN

Posted on 08/03/2005 9:28:51 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

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To: Pessimist

Good point...


21 posted on 08/03/2005 9:50:39 AM PDT by sofaman
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To: SwinneySwitch
Is sneaking over the border a felony? If not, it should be, and anyone killed or injured while committing a felony should have NO legal recourse.
22 posted on 08/03/2005 9:51:36 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: xcamel
The ther mis "Beyond the Pall"

Let me just say... HUH????

23 posted on 08/03/2005 9:52:00 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"The Moreno, Becerra, Guerrero and Casillas law firm"
If the ABA ever has a desire to recover some semblance of respectability they are going to have to be willing to disbar Attorneys such as these. When the judicial system of a nation has becomes the servant of a few to subjugate the many anarchy is not far from them.
24 posted on 08/03/2005 9:54:26 AM PDT by kublia khan (absolute war brings total victory)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Partners from the law firm of Moreno, Becerra, Guerrero and Casillas should be sealed inside the trailer to verify conditions.


25 posted on 08/03/2005 9:57:17 AM PDT by RexFamilia
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To: SlowBoat407
The ther mis "Beyond the Pall"

Yup, typing too fast with elbows again.

The phrase is "Beyond the Pall"

26 posted on 08/03/2005 9:59:16 AM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: beef

27 posted on 08/03/2005 9:59:22 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terrorists-beyond your expectations! !)
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To: trebb
Gee - no escape hatches/latches. However, if someone had not locked them in from the outside, they could have just pushed the door open.

And this is the key, and the guy to sue. Nevermind that he does not have any money. This suit against the trailer manufacturer is similar to the suit agains gun manufacturers with the exception out there that refrigerator manufacturers have moved away from latches that lock and cannot be opened to the magnetic latch that can be pushed open. These trucks can be pushed open unless latched and locked from outside. I would say if the truck was going to be used to haul human cargo then a fire axe should be left inside. What? The fire axe was not there?

28 posted on 08/03/2005 10:00:59 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: xcamel

WRONG, wrong wrong. It's 'beyond the pale.'
NOT 'beyond the pall.'

"Pale" has the same root as "palisades" - a fence around a habitation. Thus, 'beyond the pale' means 'outside the bounds' of acceptable human activity.

Your definition of 'pall' is correct (similar to 'shroud'), but that is not the word in this phrase. Possible use of 'pall' - "The recent death of their father cast a pall on the family's Christmas celebration." Or "The smog cast a pall on LA's sunshine."

Sorry for the OT, but especially since you went through the trouble of repeating yourself, I thought you might like to know.


29 posted on 08/03/2005 10:20:30 AM PDT by Shazolene
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To: SwinneySwitch
The suits describe the trailer as "dangerous," "defectively manufactured" and lacking warning decals or other precautions to prevent injuries to loading-dock workers or others who might become trapped inside.

How would dock workers get trapped? Most trailers are backed in with the doors open.
30 posted on 08/03/2005 10:25:27 AM PDT by ReeWalker (Call me a "Murder"..And expect me to be "nice"...DREAM ON.. I never have guilt EVER!!!)
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To: jtminton

They should sue the Mexican government. Is there a tip in that comic book they printed telling illegals that it is dangerous to ride in a trailer to sneak into America?

Advocates claimed that comic book was strictly for safety purposes yet it included tips on how not to be detected once you move into a city.


31 posted on 08/03/2005 10:26:42 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: ReeWalker

Or the doors are latched open.


32 posted on 08/03/2005 10:26:48 AM PDT by ReeWalker (Call me a "Murder"..And expect me to be "nice"...DREAM ON.. I never have guilt EVER!!!)
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To: RexFamilia
How many of the partners in the law firm of Moreno, Becerra, Guerrero and Casillas are in the country illegally? Deport them!
33 posted on 08/03/2005 10:28:57 AM PDT by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: SwinneySwitch

Yes, I have quite often thought that refrigerated trailers needed an escape hatch, I have seen many trucks driving down the freeway where the sides of beef and other perishable goods have been trying to escape from the truck. It is about time we had escape hatches for all the food that wants to depart these trucks./s off


34 posted on 08/03/2005 10:50:39 AM PDT by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, then I don't want to go!)
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To: xcamel
Sorry, but I think the phrase is 'beyond the pale'

pale (n).

1. A stake or pointed stick; a picket. 2. A fence enclosing an area. 3. The area enclosed by a fence or boundary. 4. a. A region or district lying within an imposed boundary or constituting a separate jurisdiction. b. Pale The medieval dominions of the English in Ireland. Used with the. 5. Heraldry. A wide vertical band in the center of an escutcheon.

tr.v. paled, pal·ing, pales

To enclose with pales; fence in.

Idiom: beyond the pale

Irrevocably unacceptable or unreasonable: behavior that was quite beyond the pale.

35 posted on 08/03/2005 10:52:01 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: austinmark; tyw; NationalistVisionary; whipitgood; Flyer; Jack Black; selucreh; txroadhawg; ...

These lawyers have to look up to see a snakes belly!


Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


36 posted on 08/03/2005 11:08:42 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Trial Lawyers-beyond your expectations! !)
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To: sofaman; SwinneySwitch

Don't forget they can also sue under the Civil Rights Act too, because there were no restroom facilities.


37 posted on 08/03/2005 11:10:09 AM PDT by Designer
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To: SwinneySwitch

I can see criminal charges against the driver but this is so messed up. We really need a no civil recourse if you are involved in a crime at the time of an accident.


38 posted on 08/03/2005 11:18:43 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: SwinneySwitch

So the manufaturer is suppose to assume his trailers will be used in illegal human trafficking? They same for the rental company? The screwed up thing is that with our courts they may win.


39 posted on 08/03/2005 11:31:03 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: litehaus; Dane

I think it was Dane who brought to my attention the newly created firm of Sheister & Sheister.


40 posted on 08/03/2005 11:36:40 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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