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To: Froufrou

I think people often want to blame the victim in cases like this because it gives them an assurance that "it wouldn't happen to me because I wouldn't do that." Wouldn't wear my dress that short, wouldn't drink that much, wouldn't do whatever it is they think contributed to the circumstances.

But while I don't agree with those who want to blame Natalee, I also don't agree with those who want to demonize Joran. The police in Aruba may have information that paints him as a violent person (they must have something more than the public knows otherwise I don't see how they could still have him in jail), but I haven't seen anything other than innuendo that depicts him as some sort of madman. I think it does little to solve the case to hyperbolize his behavior. Even the New Jersey girl's story that Beth Twitty was recounting on Greta's show did nothing to depict him as anything worse than a callow youth who attracted lots of attention in C&C.


1,672 posted on 08/05/2005 9:28:14 AM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: libsl

Fro starters, Joran is a pathological liar. THAT alone separates him from the norm.

I'll stick with Beth's first impression of him. Pounding his chest and screaching "what do you want me to do?"


1,696 posted on 08/05/2005 9:47:39 AM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: libsl

"Even the New Jersey girl's story that Beth Twitty was recounting on Greta's show did nothing to depict him as anything worse than a callow youth who attracted lots of attention in C&C."

Sorry, if that was from TexKat's post last night, I couldn't open it. Since you addressed your post to me, I will say that anyone who would kill the family dog is, yes, demonic. No, I didn't see him do it. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

My instinct is that he's a rotten apple. Your instinct may differ. The fact remains that he was the last one to see her and admitted "something bad happened." Those were HIS words. And he has no remorse. I didn't say madman. You did.


1,705 posted on 08/05/2005 9:53:59 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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