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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: TexKat

Ok, I'm a little confused about this TJ thing. It could be a difference in law I suppose. But he's being paid by the Twitty's, working for the Twitty's, in Aruba. I guess, he's physically there working. I'm rambling--but I can't figure out how it's any of the Aruban's concern. It'd be like me vacationing there and having a babysitter with me working for me, how would it matter to them?


841 posted on 08/03/2005 10:21:06 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: All

Nancy Grace runs down the best stories of the week. (July 29)

842 posted on 08/03/2005 10:23:55 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: justche
I don't know if this is true or not, but From SM:

bondia wrote:

T.J. has not been deported. He did visit Jossy's nephews house yesterday trying to speak to the gardener, who also has NOT been deported.

T.J.'s associate did arrive today and they will continue tomorrow. They first need to be briefed by the L.E. not to obstruct traffic while knocking on doors of persons of interest, oh yeah, and not make up witnesses just to be on TV.

843 posted on 08/03/2005 10:27:01 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: elli1

touche


844 posted on 08/03/2005 10:28:43 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
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To: Andy'smom; ruoflaw; KylaStarr; Jaded; cyborg; kcvl; TAquinas; maggief; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
From Riehl World View:

Lead Investigator: Joran Van der Sloot Involved - Tells Ten Different Stories - Riehl World View

Tromp said he is convinced van der Sloot was involved in Holloway's May 30 disappearance. He said the Dutch teenager, who has maintained his innocence, has changed his account of what happened that night more than 10 times.

"We thought we could solve this in a couple of days, but it turned out to be very difficult," said Lt. Roy Tromp, the lead police investigator. "In my 30 years as a police officer, I've never had a case like this."

845 posted on 08/03/2005 10:32:47 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat; BunnySlippers

Posted on 06/29/2005 10:40:32 PM PDT by BykrBayb

Father Gave Son Legal Advice In Holloway Case

POSTED: 10:45 pm CDT June 29, 2005

ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Aruba's attorney general said the father of a Dutch teenager arrested in the disappearance of an Alabama honors student told his son and his two friends that "when there is no body you don't have a case."

District Attorney Caren Janssen said Paul van der Sloot, a judge in training in Aruba, gave his 17-year-old son, Joran van der Sloot, and two Surinamese brothers legal advice the day after Natalee Holloway disappeared.

Janssen said that the elder van der Sloot had obstructed the investigation by asking a friend of Joran what he said during a police interrogation.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1455354/posts?q=1&&page=601


846 posted on 08/03/2005 10:35:40 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Andy'smom; ruoflaw; KylaStarr; Jaded; cyborg; kcvl; TAquinas; maggief; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
1040. Local B'ham News

by teammom12, 8/4/05 0:28 ET

Local news in B'ham reported that BH attended the final prayer vigil which will be held for NH at MB Community Church on Tuesday. She told NH's friends at the vigil that they need to move forward with their lives. I also heard on a news report that NH will have a dorm room at UA, and her friends will make her bed, and keep her room ready for her. I thought that was very sad.

http://www.al.com/forums/mountainbrook/index.ssf?zzIndexDONOTCOUNT20050626015118

847 posted on 08/03/2005 10:41:07 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Pepper777
Last I heard the white truck was licensed to a police man. It was spun that the gardner must have been mistaken when he gave the license number.

I thought it was the landfill witness who gave a tag # ???

848 posted on 08/03/2005 10:41:48 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: TexKat
"We thought we could solve this in a couple of days, but it turned out to be very difficult," said Lt. Roy Tromp, the lead police investigator. "In my 30 years as a police officer, I've never had a case like this."

Difficult because the security guards had alibis and you couldn't nail them? Difficult because ALE didn't gather statements or evidence? Difficult because the suspects lied and tried to pin it on someone else and suspects have never done that before? Or difficult because as Mark Furhmans said Joran is smarter than the Police? I wonder how many cases he solved without gathering evidence and letting the prime suspects go free and able to destroy evidence.... Yeah I've never seen a case like this either!!!

849 posted on 08/03/2005 10:44:27 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: TexKat
Go on is the best for her friend and schoolmates.I hate Aruba
850 posted on 08/03/2005 10:45:53 PM PDT by fatima (Just for our guys and girls,Thank you all the Military .Prayers.)
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To: Krodg
Last I heard the white truck was licensed to a police man. It was spun that the gardner must have been mistaken when he gave the license number.

........I thought it was the landfill witness who gave a tag # ???

AHA that's what threw me off! Multitasking short circuit...

851 posted on 08/03/2005 10:47:32 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: TexKat
I'd like to see Urine van der Sloot stripped naked and staked out over a red ant hill ,all day in the blazing sun and asked questions by an interrogator with a riding crop in one hand and a cattle prod in another .
852 posted on 08/03/2005 10:48:08 PM PDT by injin
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To: injin

I think they ought to take him out to "help" search the landfill.


853 posted on 08/03/2005 10:53:15 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: demsux
I'm talking about pouring fresh concrete...just need a few bags, water and a mixing machine...kinda like a development site.

Need water, builder's sand, aggregate, cement, wheelbarrows, form, power, shovels, trowels.... Very noisy; very hard work. A 'development site' is not going to be using bagged mixes of 'Quikcrete'; yards-sized batches are ordered from ready mix concrete companies. Unformed/ unfinished blobs of concrete of any significant size laying on the ground would be very unusual. Finishing concrete requires light. Clean-up--the tools must be cleaned up. Pronto. Way too complicated, too time consuming, too noisy, heavy & difficult work. And you end up with cement on your clothes & footwear.

854 posted on 08/03/2005 10:55:46 PM PDT by elli1
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To: elli1

You'd have to have someone who knew a little about what they were doing re: the concrete, etc. wouldn't you? I don't see any of the suspects (other than maybe PVDS) of having any experience like this.


855 posted on 08/03/2005 11:05:08 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: rolling_stone
I'm a little slow when it comes to posting so you might have already read that...wish I knew how to make an embarrassed smilie.
856 posted on 08/03/2005 11:06:43 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: justche

t'd be like me vacationing there and having a babysitter with me working for me, how would it matter to them?

For one thing, your babysitter wouldn't be knocking on doors and bugging people who might then call the police. For another, you probably wouldn't be paying the sitter $125 an hour--that she wasn't paying Aruba income tax on. And your babysitter wouldn't be a high profile baby-sitter who caused Aruban baby-sitters to get upset about the job she was taking away from them...

857 posted on 08/03/2005 11:06:54 PM PDT by elli1
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To: justche
It'd be like me vacationing there and having a babysitter with me working for me, how would it matter to them?

Having read more about Aruba than I would have ever bet I would, I read that law to be about protecting jobs for their own citizens. That's not to say that Ward (about whom I have had questions since his name first surfaced) isn't wrong, but a warrant? Couldn't they have advised the Holloways or Twittys who seem to be represented there without lapse? It's funny how the Arubans choose to pass out favors.

858 posted on 08/03/2005 11:07:41 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Krodg

....I'm a little slow when it comes to posting so you might have already read that...wish I knew how to make an embarrassed smilie.

Well I read Peppers post, but apparently I didnt catch the gardner and landfill mixup as I repeated it..lol..to much going on..tv, work, FR, lack of sleep...


859 posted on 08/03/2005 11:11:51 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: pnz1

You'd have to have someone who knew a little about what they were doing re: the concrete, etc. wouldn't you?

Zactly. And if they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't do it. I wouldn't expect an Internet geek & a tennis player to know much about construction. Paulus might--as I noticed that the stucco wall around their house appeared to have some fresh patchwork done on it. Course, if the vdS house is like my house, that would have been Anita's handiwork.

860 posted on 08/03/2005 11:17:27 PM PDT by elli1
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