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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: maggief
Joran's good friends is named Gillian Van Der Straatten.

Oh boy. Somehow, I'm just not surprised . . .

I wonder if there is a picture out there in cyberspace of her? Could she be that little blonde girl in the pic with Joran? The one at the birthday party?

681 posted on 08/03/2005 4:18:56 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: doc
How wealthy is Joran's father? It would take a nice size bankroll to fund his teenage son's gambling.

You wouldn't think a 50 year old man that was training to be a low level judge would be wealthy. Where was the money coming from? That is the question that makes a lot of people ponders a sex trade kidnapping angle. Joran and his Daddy probably owed someone.

682 posted on 08/03/2005 4:19:55 PM PDT by LongViewSC
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To: doc
How wealthy is Joran's father? It would take a nice size bankroll to fund his teenage son's gambling.

I think there are many here to answer that question of yours........... but, it would not be too difficult to figure that A source of some of his gambling chips could have come from sources other than his father's wealth.

Get it?

683 posted on 08/03/2005 4:20:43 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: doodlelady
Can't you picture Clint Eastwood saying that under cowboy hat with a toothpick in his mouth?

LOL. Yes!

684 posted on 08/03/2005 4:22:07 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: looney tune

bookmark


685 posted on 08/03/2005 4:24:10 PM PDT by looney tune
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SM: (http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1363)

The infamous monkey that may be on that cellphone call . . . . His name is Mico . . .

686 posted on 08/03/2005 4:35:40 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: doodlelady

Hahah,,I can!


687 posted on 08/03/2005 4:42:32 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: LongViewSC

Kind of a mystery where the money comes from but some say from hs family.


688 posted on 08/03/2005 4:44:15 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: maggief
SM: http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=66432&highlight=#66432

Scarlet
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:19 pm

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2213/1338/1600/pimps.gif

Here is the picture of Joran and Gilliam.

_____________________

For some reason, I cannot get in there.

689 posted on 08/03/2005 4:46:11 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: maggief; TexKat; stlnative
OK! Here we go!

From : http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/dont-hate-player-hate-game.html

"Identified from left to right back row are Giliam Van Der Straaten, Joran Van Der Sloot, Darwin Duberto?, ???, Deepak Kalpoe, Jaime Carrasquilla, ??? Valentjin Van Der Sloot."

Gilliam is a guy . . .

690 posted on 08/03/2005 4:49:46 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe

I got in there but there were no girls unless one in the back row was one. These days you can't tell so easily.


691 posted on 08/03/2005 4:49:59 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: theophilusscribe

Ah, he is a guy.


692 posted on 08/03/2005 4:51:34 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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The article that goes with the picture:
__________________________

Thursday, July 21, 2005
Don't hate the player, hate the game!
http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/dont-hate-player-hate-game.html

Who is forcing you to play?

We can hate both when people turn the judicial system into a game. Simply put, it is not a game! Television and legal pundits sit on both sides and commentate as if it were a spectator sport. Attornies hire professional cheerleaders to sway public opinion in their favor. The tiny island of Aruba is no exception. The players start a bit younger and seek a little different thrill. These are the self called "Pimps" of the island. Identified from left to right back row are Giliam Van Der Straaten, Joran Van Der Sloot, Darwin Duberto?, ???, Deepak Kalpoe, Jaime Carrasquilla, ??? Valentjin Van Der Sloot.

The Pimps are the sons of the current power side of Aruba's political spectrum. These boys has been lucky in the past. Partly due to the leniency of having fathers in positions to help them out and partly because they were seen by the general public as above suspician.

Several of the mothers taught at the International School of Aruba (ISA) where the boys attend. ISA is a small private pre-k through high school with approximately 120 students total or 7-8 per grade level. If we really explore the situation, we might find that it is some home schooled children that are recieving grants and international aid to build a new school and for travel to foreign countries etc... (read ripoff other countries including the US). If we listen to Joran's mother who is also a teacher at ISA, Joran was an honor student with advanced placement classes. Yet he was NOT accepted at any major University in the states much less offered any academic scholarships. Do you wonder how badly he must have done on the SAT? Or was it the interview?

The Pimps games

Have as much fun as you can, get as drunk as fast as you can, have all the girls you can, do anything because you can. The gang mentality runs rampant in the "Pimps", you might be fooled by the clothing and face paint. These boys and their familes have one theme in common. They truly hate Americans. They may pretend to like the intrusive Americans because it puts the food on the table but that is exactly why they hate them. American women were good for one thing and only one thing. And the boys enjoyed the frequent visitors to the island. Weekends were particularly fun. a couple boys would get together and hang out at the one of the hotels choosing a target. Once chosen, they make small talk allowing her to believe he is also a tourist. He or his accomplice will learn or overhear where she plans to go later that evening or the next. for an "accidental" meeting. Close to closing time the predator pimp strikes, adding a small amout of extasy. He and his accomplices left with the victim. She was then repeatedly raped. Her memory would be foggy when she awakened on a beach in a foreign country and the police would laugh when she tried to tell what she remembers. But "something BAD happened". It had worked so many times before.


"What the hell do you mean her mother is on her way here?" Paul screamed into the phone. to be continued....

posted by Breezy at 7/21/2005 11:31:00 AM


693 posted on 08/03/2005 4:53:50 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: cajungirl

Yep . . a guy. And see the "pimps" article in 693 . . .
You may have already seen it . . .


694 posted on 08/03/2005 4:55:55 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: cajungirl


Direct TV just got installed! I can actually watch Greta tonight!


695 posted on 08/03/2005 4:57:25 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: theophilusscribe

Geeze,,what a post.


696 posted on 08/03/2005 5:05:49 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

I know! I don't know how accurate that blogger is, but there's alot on his/her site. http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com

Stuff about Julia Refro, Lorenzo, timeline, Joran's history, a Papiamentu translator . . . alot there.


697 posted on 08/03/2005 5:13:13 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: TexKat; stlnative; theophilusscribe

Ping.

Thank you for following the trail, theophilusscribe. :-)


698 posted on 08/03/2005 5:13:20 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: maggief

Thank YOU for finding Scarlet's post!! :o)


699 posted on 08/03/2005 5:15:58 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: maggief

klaasend wrote:

Here is the picture of Giliam Van Der Straaten (I took 15yr old Sasha out). Giliam is on the far right.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/gvdscopy.jpg

700 posted on 08/03/2005 5:21:01 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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