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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: photodawg

This" theory " of yours was covered to great extent in THREAD NUMBER ONE. Got any proof? WE'd love to see it.


341 posted on 08/02/2005 6:49:09 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: TexKat

The refinery in Aruba....on Valero's website

http://www.valero.com/Visit+Our+Refineries/Aruba


342 posted on 08/02/2005 7:04:58 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: TexKat

Thank you for maintaining these NH threads. I've been lurking off and on. I was wondering if there could be anything like a cemetery on the island. I'm aware that there could be a problem with the high water table. A cemetery would be the perfect place to hide a body. Often the best place is in plain sight.


343 posted on 08/02/2005 7:08:16 PM PDT by dstarr
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To: dstarr
TRY reading the first 10 threads before coming out of Lurk. It could help.

Cant take it anymore. Going to bed.

344 posted on 08/02/2005 7:12:00 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: theophilusscribe

Jossy: At the pond, there is a lot of water...has not been drained completely. A lot of land around the pond hasn't been searched either.



Jossy encouraged witness to come forward, now he says lots of land around pond hasn't been search, pond still has lots of water.........is it possible he is intentionally keeping authorities focused/busy on Aruba for a reason? Is she off the island? Just a thought.


345 posted on 08/02/2005 7:14:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: RGVTx

I did not say anything about having faith in the ALE, I said "What is important is what inconsistencies have the authorities found with PVDS?" What Beth believes obviously means nothing in this case or Joran would already be on death row. I was attempting to point out that what PVDS has said to the ALE is what will be paramount to this investigation and we have no idea what they know, now do we? Unfortunately, the families are not the prosecutors and what they believe has nothing to do with the outcome.


346 posted on 08/02/2005 7:15:39 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: MAWG

Don't let the door hit you on your way out!


347 posted on 08/02/2005 7:17:35 PM PDT by dstarr
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To: presently no screen name
Is anyone watching this interview that Greta is doing with this polis officer?? ===
348 posted on 08/02/2005 7:24:10 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva

I am...and that's a hard cold fact so nobody should be offended :)


349 posted on 08/02/2005 7:27:49 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: All

So...we have a polis officier that thinks she left the island ... on her own ... because their feeble efforts to find her have turned up nothing...

Furhman is right...that kid is smarter than the cops!


350 posted on 08/02/2005 7:32:17 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva

Thanks for the reminder - only 15 minutes left of the show!!

just love those little guys!


351 posted on 08/02/2005 7:43:51 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: truthluva
True, but on the show, Tito also said that the K-Mart Brothers have to be in court tomorrow along with Joran, and he feels that Papa has reason to worry about being arrested again (should that be detained).

Tito said that ALE feels papa has lied to them.

No. Really.
352 posted on 08/02/2005 7:44:34 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
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To: dstarr
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005

The latest occurrences in Aruba suggest that the island is currently going trough very bad times. Starting with case of Natalee Holloway who has been missing since may 30th . The local authorities aided by the FBI and some Dutch experts have not been able to crack this case yet. As if this case wasn’t enough, Hasibokos.com has received information that the police have found a (partially) decapitated body of an Aruban male Saturday morning in the neighborhood called Sabana (see map). . According to preliminary (unconfirmed) reports the man was murdered in his house and then later dumped in a cemetery close by. The scene at the house and the cemetery have been described as gruesome and bloody. There are also reports of an additional person who’s missing on the island. The pickup truck of the missing man has been found, but the man himself is nowhere to be found. This recent murder and additional missing case are all being investigated

353 posted on 08/02/2005 7:45:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
A reader wrote that an image they'd seen picturing a makeshift table outside the now infamous Fishman's Hut on a beach in Aruba looks unusual to him. Their position is that the traffic and sand pattern looks altered and it's possible something was buried beneath it - a shoe, perhaps. As they emailed back suggesting the image may be copyrighted, I've taken it down.

The table looks like a old cable "reel" it has a top and a bottom and the bottom is buried under the sand...the wire or cable is normally wound around the core and held by both ends-top and bottom...google wood cable reel for pics..

354 posted on 08/02/2005 7:46:15 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: MAWG

I'd love to see "proof" for any of the theories that are continuously put forth. So far it all seems like smoke and mirrors. It may turn out some of the musings may be true, but who knows? If the Aruban police do, they certainly aren't telling!


355 posted on 08/02/2005 7:47:56 PM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: truthluva

" So...we have a polis officier that thinks she left the island ... on her own ... because their feeble efforts to find her have turned up nothing... ""

Unbelieveable!! If the guy Greta interviewed, is an example of the typical police officer, I don't know why Americans would consider going to a place where the police seem to despise them. geeeeezzz

The police guy was an almost twin to the other guy Greta interviewed. In fact, at one point he said - let us do our jobs - while he was talking about the police. Was he also an Aruban police man or a detective? If so, no wonder they haven't solved the crime. They are acting like there wasn't a crime.


356 posted on 08/02/2005 7:50:40 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: truthluva

Scrolled down more - didn't see the interview w/PO. On her own? What reason did he give for that?



My thoughts on this came from Jossy - seems like he is directing ALE to dig here, look here, go back to pond, etc., etc. Seems to be a diversion to me. Nothing he says seems to pan out but he keeps throwing more. Just a thought in my 'not so patient' state. Don't know how Beth does it!


357 posted on 08/02/2005 7:52:38 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Did anyone catch the name of the guy who's been arrested or detained in the Brook Willberger case?


358 posted on 08/02/2005 7:56:59 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: presently no screen name

" Don't know how Beth does it!""

I don't either. She must stay focused on all the support she is getting from her family and friends and try and ignore the rest. Natalee is definately a very loved young lady.


359 posted on 08/02/2005 7:57:34 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: justche

Joel Patrick Courtney


360 posted on 08/02/2005 7:59:11 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything.)
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