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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: cajungirl

Poor baby.
I do hope he lives long enough to prove where Natalee is.


2,261 posted on 08/07/2005 9:18:08 AM PDT by b9
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To: stopem

Yes, Tito said 3 attorney's for Joran.
Beth said the prosecutor told her 9 attorneys for Joran.
Take your choice on what to believe.
I believe Beth, but not sure about the prosecutor.


2,262 posted on 08/07/2005 9:20:18 AM PDT by RGVTx
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To: doodlelady

New interrogators way of making him talk??
He was hit in the face and it's not clear if it happened during interrogation or jail.


2,263 posted on 08/07/2005 9:21:32 AM PDT by stopem
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To: doodlelady

... or self-inflicted???


2,264 posted on 08/07/2005 9:21:53 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: stopem

Wonder if that's why he was given the weekend off...
to consider there's more where that came from.


2,265 posted on 08/07/2005 9:24:08 AM PDT by b9
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

The landfill witness identified Paulus early on as the one watching the landfill from the fence.
Last night, Jossy(I think it was Jossy) said the landfill witness identified Joran and Deepak as being 2 of the three people in the white truck.


2,266 posted on 08/07/2005 9:24:36 AM PDT by RGVTx
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To: maggief

Really...you think? I can't imagine him hurting himself.
Just pleasuring himself.


2,267 posted on 08/07/2005 9:25:49 AM PDT by b9
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To: Dante3

One tabloid rumor is that Natalee was delivered to pron film makers.
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This is where Posner comes into the picture. Posner is supposedly involved with porn. Posner's partner in porn is supposedly Lorenzo Van Rijn. This is only rumor at this time. Please do not take it as fact.


2,268 posted on 08/07/2005 9:28:04 AM PDT by RGVTx
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To: maggief

Maggief, thanks for bringing the SM posts here.
I was reading those last night and found it very interesting.

One thing that was also posted on SM by Native Lingo is that Joran has a hobby of studying criminal law.


2,269 posted on 08/07/2005 9:36:50 AM PDT by RGVTx
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To: cajungirl
I think Joran probably had a bad birthday all round.

It might be no coincidence he got beat up on his birthday.
Salesmen know that clients are more receptive on their birthdays.

2,270 posted on 08/07/2005 9:49:05 AM PDT by b9
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To: stopem

Stopem,
There is nothing prude about your concept and beliefs. They are just good old fashioned (common sense)synonomous with (traditional wisdom)

Stopem welcome to the A-Team.

"America" show me a better country,
NSNR-KH


2,271 posted on 08/07/2005 9:55:07 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: cajungirl
I think Joran probably had a bad birthday all round.

Remember the documentary "Scared Straight"?

Maybe he is getting a different sort of education in jail than he and his parents had envisioned for him.

This child of privilege is, hopefully, beginning to feel pressures that we can only imagine. He may start to cooperate with his interrogators, but I believe there is no deal making in Aruba.

Anita is probably desperate to get her baby back home. She is a weak link, and may be pleading with him to tell the truth.

Paulus' abundant sweating indicates he has a lot of guilty knowledge. He seems to get all sweaty and agitated when he is asked questions in his home. In his home, where he should feel safest, but apparently does not.

2,272 posted on 08/07/2005 10:01:26 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Thanks!! And proud to be a part of it.


2,273 posted on 08/07/2005 10:07:29 AM PDT by stopem
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

VNS 67-68,
Amen to that and I see it existing here on the FR and else where.(Togetherness)

Far better to have one's body severed in twain, then to flee my brothers & sisters in-arms during the heat of battle.

NSNR,


2,274 posted on 08/07/2005 10:17:29 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: shebacal
Anita is probably desperate to get her baby back home. She is a weak link, and may be pleading with him to tell the truth

But how would telling the truth get him released?

2,275 posted on 08/07/2005 10:17:47 AM PDT by b9
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To: stopem

Stopem,
I would like to see PVDS, receive a piece of that action. (Ass-Whipping-Inc)



Well Sir, I believed he slipped on a bar of soap.

NSNR-DD-12


2,276 posted on 08/07/2005 10:22:13 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

;)

You have my vote to get him to talk! Lets all pitch in and buy
NSNR a ticket to aruba.....boy would this case be solved and fast!!


2,277 posted on 08/07/2005 10:24:08 AM PDT by stopem
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To: doodlelady
But how would telling the truth get him released?

That I don't know, but I can see her visiting him, crying and saying, "Please just tell the truth - I know you didn't do anything wrong.

We know she is deluding herself about this, but her crying and pleading with him would be another pressure on him.

Another thing that occurs to me, is he has had a compulsion to brag about his nefarious lifestyle. Keeping his mouth shut about Natalee for the rest of his life will be torture for him.

2,278 posted on 08/07/2005 10:28:54 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: cajungirl

Cajungirl (LA Lady),
J-bOY is getting his cross-bar hotel street creds on the down under. J-boy gets knocked down and stays under for the count.

Avds looks in her son's urine's(POS) eyes and says he is jack of all trades. Mr Natural looks in jvds(POS) eyes and says " I don't see Jack-sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiittttttt.

It ain't nothin but a thang,
NSNR-PLT


2,279 posted on 08/07/2005 10:33:02 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: shebacal
I can see her visiting him, crying and saying, "Please just tell the truth - I know you didn't do anything wrong.

It's hard to figure she'd be that much in denial,
but maybe that's what it takes for her to survive.

Hard to imagine, especially in light of the beatings her other boys suffer at the hands, and feet, of Joran.

2,280 posted on 08/07/2005 10:37:22 AM PDT by b9
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