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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: cajungirl

I agree.


1,821 posted on 08/05/2005 4:14:26 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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Natalee Hollway Search, July 26 - August 1, 2005 by Robert Cooke
http://www.rachelcookesearch.org/arubasearch.html

Tim Miller, the director of Texas EquuSearch, Tim's friend Kevin, and I flew to Aruba on Tuesday. We want to set up things and define search areas for the specialized search teams that are coming later this week. Tim appeared live on Fox's ON THE RECORD WITH GRETA VAN SUSTEREN within two hours of our arrival in Aruba. I met Natalee Holloway's mother Beth while waiting for the show.I gave her the ribbons the Laci Peterson ribbon makers made for Natalee. Beth gave me one of the wristbands made for Natalee, which are similar to the Lance Armstrong Foundation wristbands.

The next day, Kevin and I started working on a schedule for the week. The ground penetrating radar (GPR) team and TES search leader and lead diver Joe Huston also flew in on Wednesday.

Thursday, the GPR team scanned an area in the Arikok National Park where a shallow grave and duct tape with blonde hair were found. I picked up the first dog team at the airport and took them to the hotel. A new witness came forward who said he saw a female being dumped in the Aruba landfill two days after Natalee disappeared. Kevin went to the landfill and listened to what the witness had to say. The information was credible enough for us to search the landfill tomorrow. I appeared on MSNBC's ABRAMS REPORT tonight. They asked me questions about the GPR and Natalee's search. I also explained Rachel's disappearance.

Friday most of the team went to the landfill. The GPR and methane people searched the beach near the Marriott Hotel. Dave Holloway and his father-in-law accompanied us to the dump. A K9 got a hit in one area. Three small mounds were flattened there by a bulldozer, and the dog was still interested in the ground. A backhoe then dug down about three feet. The K9 then lost interest.

The backhoe was moved to the area where the witness said a body was dumped. A second backhoe arrived, and that one dug 5-6 foot deep holes about 50 yards apart. The backhoes then moved toward each other. I left the landfill to pick up a second K9 team at the airport. Later that night, Tim Miller and I appeared on ON THE RECORD WITH GRETA VAN SUSTEREN.

Saturday the landfill search continued. We only had one backhoe, so we carefully dug where the landfill supervisor said the garbage for early June would be. Newspaper dates were checked as we dug to make sure we were in the correct area.

The dogs checked the holes in the early morning and late afternoon for human scents. At one point they got a hit, but it turned out to be medical waste. Geraldo Rivera's brother Greg interviewed a few searchers today. One of the K9 teams appeared on Fox's HEARTLAND, Joe Huston and I were on THE BIG STORY, and Tim Miller was on AT LARGE WITH GERALDO RIVERA.

Sunday Joe Huston and I spent most of the day at the landfill. We bought better masks, which helped a lot. An ad will be placed in tomorrow's newspaper asking for equipment and operator donations to continue the landfill search on Tuesday.

I did interviews with ABC, Associated Press, and PEOPLE magazine. The PEOPLE article about Natalee Holloway should be in an early August edition.

Monday a team was sent to the old Atlantis Hotel. Tim, Kevin, and I flew back to Texas. Some of the team will remain in Aruba to complete the landfill search.

Ground Penetrating Radar and Methane Crew


Search Dog Ebby hits on something


Dave Holloway and his father-in-law


Backhoe works another area. Red from SM examins bucketloads

1,822 posted on 08/05/2005 4:28:28 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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luna
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=895&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=840
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:21 pm

On Greta's show tonight:

"Natalee Holloway's (search) mom is back in Aruba, turning up the heat on the investigation. Will putting pressure on police help or hurt the case? We'll be joined by Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty.

A major ruling is expected in Aruba on Monday. Tito Lacle, an investigative reporter with Aruba Today, explains what it is and how it could affect the Holloway investigation.

Then, Natalee's friends go "On the Record." One of them was with Natalee the night she first met Joran van der Sloot (search). What did she think of him? And was she surprised when he showed up at Carlos & Charlie's on May 30?

Joran van der Sloot was interrogated again on Friday by experts from the Netherlands. But he refuses to answer their questions! Can they learn anything from him even if he won't talk? Former Los Angeles homicide detective Mark Fuhrman joins us live in Spokane, Washington.

Plus, volunteers and search dogs were back at the Aruba landfill on Friday, desperately looking for any sign of Natalee Holloway. We'll get the latest on the investigation from Jossy Mansur, managing editor of Aruba's largest newspaper, Diario."


1,823 posted on 08/05/2005 4:30:41 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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sunmoonstars
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=76395&highlight=#76395
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:00 pm

Greta and Beth Thurs

On lady who came to her about Joran:

She is 18, American from NJ
Had encounter with Joran in April 2005
Circumstances very similar, Beth can picture it being same as Natalee
Girl and 2 friends at C&C
Joran comes in, approaches her right off
Almost as if he begins to sell himself to the tourists
A friend of Joran comes up short, dark hair..talks about how rich Joran is
Joran seems to continually be scoping out the bar
Joran pointed out Deepak and Satish on the same stools we have seen on media, referred to them as his gambling buddies, this is who I play poker with
Takes the girls around C&C, kisses all the girls on the cheek
Leans over the bar tells the bartender I need 4 shots of 151
Open tab
Shows in Beths opinion a predatory history
Close to closing time
Girls last night on the island
C&C was closing at 12am because of a fight the previous night
Tries to get their phone numbers, trying to get the girls to come out on the deck
Continuously scoping out the entrance and exit
Girl is sure it is Joran, a girl in her group has a pic of her and Joran
Tried to make sure he made a connection with these girls
Wanted them to come to Cafe Bahia
Deepak and Satish are like the wingmen...waiting to see who they can scoop up
Natalee did not know she was getting in the car with Jorans two buddies
Arrived on the island, by just describing him, within 45 min. I knew who he was.
Wants to talk to prosecutor...feels like she is topnotch

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Cafe Bahia?


1,824 posted on 08/05/2005 4:37:10 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe

Dave Holloway and his current wife's father? Wow, I think this is wonderful how both families are coming together and trying desparately to find the truth. I hope and pray they do find her and bring her home.


1,825 posted on 08/05/2005 4:44:18 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '06)
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To: Froufrou
If I post to "All" does everyone get a ping?

No. It seems to be a courtesy so posters will know that it isn't meant for one poster. It only works with posters who aren't carrying on a very public private war. When people who aren't interested in squabbles scroll past those posts, they will see that someone wants to share info. Like I said...it doesn't happen often.

1,826 posted on 08/05/2005 4:45:40 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: TAquinas

You sure change directions alot. Now it's Beth's fault? Or it's because she's white? You make no sense, I would think it's time for you to go formulate one more of those theories you announce you're going to come up with.


1,827 posted on 08/05/2005 4:46:10 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: TexKat

Work permit?

I wonder if they feel the same about Natalee's father at the dump "working" thru the trash.

Geesh. I think they're getting close to the truth and the authorities don't like it.


1,828 posted on 08/05/2005 4:48:35 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '06)
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To: TAquinas

Are you suggesting that Princeton Online is not a reliable source?! Or that yours is the only opinion that is valid here? Either way, doncha think that's rather arrogant?


1,829 posted on 08/05/2005 4:52:34 PM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: TAquinas

Thanks for the info.


1,830 posted on 08/05/2005 4:53:11 PM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: cajungirl

Deepak I believe is true. But where was Trappenburg DJ? Missed that, sorry.


1,831 posted on 08/05/2005 4:54:13 PM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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http://www.cafebahia.com/

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Café Bahia Frommer's Favorite

Address: Weststraat 7
Phone: 297/588-9982

http://www.frommers.com/destinations/aruba/N28609.html
Frommer's Review

Located on the capital's busiest strip, across from the Royal Plaza Mall, Café Bahia features a tropical ambience, a fishing-boat bar, and hand-painted murals. The kitchen is open until 11pm so you can snack on Caribbean conch fritters as you drink. After 10pm, the place starts hopping, especially on weekends and holidays, when there's disco dancing. Popular libations include the Chocolate City and Barnamint Bailey (ask about their sweet, calorie-laden ingredients). You can drink and dance until 2 or 3 in the morning.

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Aruba Bank celebrate's Halloween Nite @ Café Bahia: http://gallery.magic965.com/thumbnails.php?album=107

Tremendo Ladies Night na Cafe Bahia 3aug: http://album.coolaruba.com/thumbnails.php?album=188

Beursalen Party cu Mega na Cafe Bahia 28juli: http://album.coolaruba.com/thumbnails.php?album=172

Bling Bling Party at Bahia 21juli:http://album.coolaruba.com/thumbnails.php?album=160

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Disgusting picture of Joran: http://www.pancayente.com/news/EPI%20PARTY%20TIME%20042%20(1).jpg


1,832 posted on 08/05/2005 4:56:29 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: hsmomx3
Dave Holloway and his current wife's father? Wow, I think this is wonderful how both families are coming together and trying desparately to find the truth. I hope and pray they do find her and bring her home.

It struck me too, hsmomx3. Very poignant . . .

1,833 posted on 08/05/2005 4:57:56 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: cajungirl

Thank you ':^)


1,834 posted on 08/05/2005 5:00:28 PM PDT by b9
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Robert J
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=895&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=880
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: Cafe Bahia (NJ girl) & Mambo Jambo (with Natalee)..

Club Bahia.. next door to CnC's - reportedly where Joran tried to get New Jersey girl to go to..

Club Mambo Jambo.. one block away (at the Royal Plaza Mall)(Deepak's work - CYBERZONE also at Royal Plaza Mall).. boys apparently said they also went here with Natalee (but may have gone to CYBERZONE instead)..


1,835 posted on 08/05/2005 5:01:18 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Froufrou

"If I post to "All" does everyone get a ping?"

I dont think so.
I didnt get it.


1,836 posted on 08/05/2005 5:02:01 PM PDT by Canedawg (Not for sale.)
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To: Canedawg

Bump


1,837 posted on 08/05/2005 5:09:07 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: TexKat; maggief; stlnative
I've been debating whether or not to ping you to 1832. There's an awful picture of Joran which could offend someone (which is why I didn't post it on the thread). It is not that bad, pretty much shows his party boy side. I just didn't think kids, etc., should be seeing it . . . ? Am I overly cautious?
1,838 posted on 08/05/2005 5:12:45 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe

Can you describe it for us, so we can decide if we want to look at it or not?


1,839 posted on 08/05/2005 5:19:22 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: doodlelady

Thank you for that most needed post!


1,840 posted on 08/05/2005 5:20:47 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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