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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: Toespi

A realistic thinker would not need a tagline about thinking outside the box.


1,561 posted on 08/05/2005 5:12:56 AM PDT by Canedawg (modern liberalism is a communist plot)
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To: demkicker

"If you're as smart as you claim to be, you didn't type your retort with a straight face. I nailed you correctly. You're an argumentative disruptor who delights in blaming the victim and stirring up trouble. You've taken the same kind of liberties you accuse others of with your unprovable scenarios, so get off of your sanctimonious high horse, or better yet, get the hell off of this thread."

:o) Beautifully said.


1,562 posted on 08/05/2005 5:37:41 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: stopem

"Right, because just saying he was a lady's man at 17 doesn't add anything to convict him BUT if this "game" he played resulted in rapes or assaults than that puts a whole other spin on this. Other than that from a legal standpoint and NH case it probably means nothing."

Must be you have a son about the same age. Go back and read around post 666-689 and see the Pimps game from arubaonline.com or whatever. It's not Joran's game, it's the local passtime. "Don't hate the player, hate the game." I can buy that, but defending JVDS on the bases of 'it's not his fauly he's a ladies man?'

Puh-leeze.


1,563 posted on 08/05/2005 5:42:12 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Canedawg

Good one.


1,564 posted on 08/05/2005 5:44:34 AM PDT by Toespi (Just thinking outside the box.)
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To: Froufrou

Stopem in no way defended Joran with this statement, just an observation that makes sense.


1,565 posted on 08/05/2005 5:48:52 AM PDT by Toespi (Just thinking outside the box.)
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To: Froufrou

"....see the Pimps game from arubaonline.com...."

There it is.

The universal meaning of "pimps" is guys who procure and sell the sexual favors of women for their own profit. It may well be very significant that they call their little (gang) "Pimps"......a strange name for a group of kids to choose, as most gangs have names more regal or violent sounding.


1,566 posted on 08/05/2005 5:51:24 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: stlnative; TexKat

You may find this interesting, re: rental property, et al. Start reading posts at 2:17 am.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/natalee_hollowa_11.html#comments


1,567 posted on 08/05/2005 5:51:33 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: TexKat

Texkat,
If you will (please)? post this to that half of a shell of a boy Aruban Dud?


This aruban psuedo stud is nothing more than a fool popping off at the mouth.

It is easy for him or whatever unknown species to he evolved, to say this cowardly crap over the internet.

I say this aruban dud, I will fight you any time, any place, where you little half-boy self would show up.

When you insult our President and our American women, then you have insulted me.

Aruba is like a bowel movement which needs permanent flushing, so as not to spread uncurable diseases with you included.

I don't mind and you aruban POS do not matter.

Don't Tread On Me or the USA
NSNR


1,568 posted on 08/05/2005 5:54:55 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I was thinking about the poster who said the friends claimed to have been at the pool until 5:30 a.m. I began to feel that Nat maybe had gone back to the hotel. The boys knew it wouldn't be on tape.

But then I recalled that Beth said she was SURE Nat had NOT gone back to the hotel. Why? Because SHE KNOWS where they took her in the cab. She just can't make it public at this time.

Is it possible that she's been so much in the media that now if someone has Nat they can't even ransom her due to all the media attention?

Burn Aruba burn.


1,569 posted on 08/05/2005 5:57:29 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: TexKat
Youch! Someone is feeling the heat . . . The cash cow is being barbecued . . .
1,570 posted on 08/05/2005 6:01:58 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Toespi; stopem

I suggest you review the Jossy video that TexKat posted yesterday. In it he plainly states that JVDS had 'problems' with girls at school. I don't think that means he's a ladies man. That, and Jossy also speaks of JVDS' VIOLENT temper.

If that's what you consider to be the qualities of a ladies man, you might want to consider what other delusions you may have.


1,571 posted on 08/05/2005 6:02:35 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: TexKat

Another concocted prevarication to thwart the searches. Maybe it's time to quarantine (Astupa) with the US Navy.

If the US let's them slide on this debacle of justice, there will more more to come.

TexKat, could you picture this scenario in America, if the victim's werer reversed? The UN, ACLU, Democrats and the other usual anti-American slugs would be screaming on TV about No Justice No Peace in America.

It's time for a loyalty check, "Boycott Aruba for infinity." " No Arubans allowed in America.

As I See It,
NSNR


1,572 posted on 08/05/2005 6:04:31 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: theophilusscribe

Morning Theo! What do you suppose the new industry will be in Aruba, now that tourism is going up in smoke?

Or, do you reckon some folks will 'cash in' on the cheap travel? 'Can't wait to go the Caribbean...maybe I'll get lucky and won't get raped or rolled.'


1,573 posted on 08/05/2005 6:05:02 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Froufrou

Wow, 1500 posts. At least now I know who watches Greta "beat the dead horse into the ground" Van Susteren every night.


1,574 posted on 08/05/2005 6:05:27 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Froufrou

I've maintained all along that the ONLY time "that nite" Natalee was seen "at the hotel" is when she and the girls returned briefly between the beach concert and going to C&C's......this was where ahd when she "introduced herself to joran as he was beginning the end-game of the stalk and snatch......she had previously lost some monwy, and someone said he regained 100 of the lost 300 at this time. this was also where he made the comment about it being dead on sunday nites, but the girls went anyhow....the important thing I see here is that there never was a conflicting statement as some try to spin.....nor is there a single statement by anyone on the trip to the effect that Natalee was seen at the hotel after departing C&C's.

Scarborough jammed Byrd with time constraint, and there was NOT time for her to respond fully and honestly....in fact, Scarborough offered "leave it like that" as an option to her in lieu of a full explanation due to the time constraint he had just placed on her response......that is the origin of the nonsense that those who wish to pretend Natalee was seen at the hotel after her encounter at C&C's w/jorab & the Pinps. But it is simply NOT TRUE.


1,575 posted on 08/05/2005 6:10:30 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Rodney King

Actually, if you suggest I watch Greta every night, it's not true. I'm not a fan of her or Nancy Grace. But I do watch FOX looking for new info about the NH case. Guilty as JVDS.


1,576 posted on 08/05/2005 6:10:55 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

That piece of scum Aruban stud was speaking of one of the guys over at Scared Monkeys when he referred to your leader on televison, not our President.


1,577 posted on 08/05/2005 6:12:13 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Toespi

Toespi,
You have a right to comment like all of us, but your comment is ridiculous. NSNR


1,578 posted on 08/05/2005 6:12:25 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Froufrou

Good morning Froufrou! Are you haveing a nice morning so far?

I think people will continue to go to Aruba. I'm not talking so much about family trips, that particular demographic may dwindle down.

But it is still a party place, and people will sluff it off to, "Well she probably got stoned and drowned." Remember, a good percentage of Americans can't name who the Vice President is. They don't watch the news and don't care what happens to the entire country, never mind one girl.

They are too busy planning where to get their next piercing or if Tom really does love Katie.


1,579 posted on 08/05/2005 6:13:25 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Lori675

It will be interesting to see what happens on Sept 4th. From the blip I saw on Greta either yesterday or the day before .. she spoke very briefly to the prosecuter who still feels good about the case. .. I took it to mean that Joran will be charged .. tho' she didn't say charged with WHAT.

As to the media.. it's hard to say... they cover whatever they think will bring them ratings.. period.


1,580 posted on 08/05/2005 6:15:23 AM PDT by pamlet
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