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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: stlnative; truthluva

Goodnight


1,541 posted on 08/04/2005 10:45:49 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: cherry

Thanks cherry, I've been searching too.


1,542 posted on 08/04/2005 10:46:17 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: cherry
I found it cherry.

Dario Reporter:

He told Fox reporter:

We have been working on this case since the first day, since then have picked up every piece of material, so they can have everything to put together this story. Tonight again we are on the road cause the team is following some suspect cars that we need for this story. Looks like we are going to have a nice finish for this story asap. His sources say they have moved already from where they were and they want to know exactly where they are going. She asks who do you think is moving Natalie and is he saying that he thinks she is alive? He says yes, of course. We are going in a group of 2 ladies, 3 gentlemen. One gentlemen knows a person who knows how to deal with drugs (not from Aruba) maybe from Venezuela or Columbia. The plan was to drive Natalee to columbia, but the latest news we have right now is that because the plan has failed 3 times already, they may try to reach Columbia before Venezuela. She asked what kind of condition he thinks she is in. He says that the police have their investigation going on, the press does too. We are going to all steps we can, we have put together a group to follow a car that we think are involved in this. We are working on a tip. Have not notified her family, we are working with the police.

1,343 posted on 06/18/2005 8:52:29 PM CDT by TexKat

1,543 posted on 08/04/2005 10:57:39 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: cherry

That reporter's name is Hubert Tiel and according to Riehl World View he is listed on the El Diario site as a sports reporter.


1,544 posted on 08/04/2005 11:35:50 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

bookmark


1,545 posted on 08/05/2005 12:04:05 AM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
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To: cherry
...whether Nat was world-wise or a down home country bumpkin, is neither here nor there.....

she had been drinking and was probably drugged....

Yep...exactly...I wish people would stop blaming her and her family for her demise. Someone picked her out to be the object of their deadly game. She's lost. Not of her own doing.

1,546 posted on 08/05/2005 12:31:03 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: justche
He definitely looked like a rather guile-free humble worker, not like someone who would love to get involved in the case and be on cable TV. And his descriptions (the translations) seemed like they were really from his type of perspective. He is probably into vehicles and so he could describe little details on the cars. But the way he described the body... I just don't think he could have made that up. Very few people would have added the detail of the purple skin (lividity) if they were making it all up.

Also, by fingering 4 of the players in this case, he was not putting himself in the safest position on the island. He is all but begging for one of those close-fitting neckties. I hope they can keep him safe.

1,547 posted on 08/05/2005 1:19:58 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Pepper777

"Here comes the spinner Arlene..."

Arlene's a smart cookie, a loyal Aruban. No one's going to trip up this savvy lady.

Do you have any particulars on where she's spinning? Or do you just speculating?


1,548 posted on 08/05/2005 1:46:46 AM PDT by IIntense
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To: cajungirl
It is not unusual for an innocent to be slaughtered.
It is unusual for a slaughtered innocent to be picked apart by vultures.

Beautifully stated and much appreciated.

1,549 posted on 08/05/2005 2:15:49 AM PDT by b9
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To: looney tune

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1,550 posted on 08/05/2005 2:58:35 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: presently no screen name

None of the rest would have happened if she hadn't befriended him, right?


1,551 posted on 08/05/2005 4:07:30 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Get over yourselves!)
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To: eleni121

Wow, that IS sordid. Underage drinking. Only in Aruba!


1,552 posted on 08/05/2005 4:08:13 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Get over yourselves!)
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To: Trust but Verify; Toespi

I believe "no body, no crime" is a paraphrase of something PVDS did say....PVDS is a lawyer and maybe judge, he would absolutey know better. He could have said, "How do they know it is a crime when there is no body...''

Interesting point. Besides what ya'll said, something I have to keep reminding myself of is that most of what we hear & read about in this case has gone thru a language translation process. That adds a whole 'nother layer of confusion.

1,553 posted on 08/05/2005 4:23:40 AM PDT by elli1
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To: elli1

Excellent point and probably a big factor.


1,554 posted on 08/05/2005 4:42:04 AM PDT by Toespi (Just thinking outside the box.)
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To: Krodg

No.


1,555 posted on 08/05/2005 4:42:39 AM PDT by Toespi (Just thinking outside the box.)
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To: Trust but Verify
She, she, she. You are so hung up on 'she' and so blinded to Joran's actions!

Earlier in this week you were telling everyone they shouldn't spend their time on this thread and now you are spending days here criticizing Natalee.
This is a PRO-Natalee Holloway thread - there is one reason you are here - you have made it obvious. Natalee is beautiful, smart, popular, talented young lady and has two sets of parents who adore her and has shown nothing is too much or too good for Natalee. Then add to the fact she has many many caring people praying and hoping she returns and they have grown to love her family. All that seems to upset you.
1,556 posted on 08/05/2005 4:59:02 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: pies
"Joran's game. I'm thinking he played this game alot.....such never resulted in death/disappearance before (that we know of). Wish more girls would come forward. I'll bet they're out there."

Right, because just saying he was a lady's man at 17 doesn't add anything to convict him BUT if this "game" he played resulted in rapes or assaults than that puts a whole other spin on this. Other than that from a legal standpoint and NH case it probably means nothing.

1,557 posted on 08/05/2005 5:05:19 AM PDT by stopem
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To: texasbluebell

Mountain Brook is 5.6 miles from Birmingham.

Birmingham Per Capita Crime:

Murders are 4.63 times the national average
Forcible Rapes are 2.34 times the national average
All Violent Crimes are 2.3 times the national average



1,558 posted on 08/05/2005 5:06:32 AM PDT by Toespi (Just thinking outside the box.)
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To: presently no screen name

You are the one continuing the discussion, not me. I'm not criticising her, just stating a fact. If you can't handle facts, that's fine. I've criticised Joran and said I think he's guilty. What more do you want?


1,559 posted on 08/05/2005 5:06:45 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Get over yourselves!)
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To: Toespi
LOL. The Birmingham metro-complex isn't exactly a rural hamlet.
1,560 posted on 08/05/2005 5:09:03 AM PDT by varina davis
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